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Nose Abuse/Spam Problems (was: Re: Alt.net UDP re-proposed. Email correspondence to follow.)

#666
From: Stan Kalisch III
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 00:00
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On Wed, 19 Nov 1997, Gunter Bergman wrote:

> On Wed, 19 Nov 1997 03:42:28 -0800, Stan Kalisch III <sjkiii@crl.com> wrote:
> 
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> )On Tue, 18 Nov 1997, Phil Oliver wrote:
> )
> )> By no one's definitions but your own.  The only person who's even come
> )> close to actually agreeing with you is Stan Kalisch, <...>
> )
> )If I'm "close" to agreeing with her, then there are certainly others.  In
> )the meantime, I suggest you reread exactly what I said, instead of
> )accusing me of being on a witchhunt.
> 
> In February you imposing personal UDP's against people because you
> didn't like them or their message contents.

Your saying that still doesn't make it so.

> There was nothing even remotely approaching a BI of 20.

Yes, it far exceeded 20.  For *months*.  It's well documented in DejaNews.
The BI on the word "fuckhead" alone probably exceeded one thousand.
You're free to calculate the exact number if you'd like.

On the other hand, if you'd just like to keep screaming non-sequiturs all
over the place.  News administrators aren't going to believe what you're
saying about me anytime soon.

References (like I'm really even ibligated to give you any)?  Sure, here
are some:


http://x1.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?recnum=%3c961127104235.13070.1
493@ferret.ocunix.on.ca%3e&server=db96q5&CONTEXT=880230277.1682
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http://x1.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?recnum=%3c970206061656.257A@cr
l11.crl.com%3e&server=db97p1&CONTEXT=880230277.168296688&hitnum
=4

http://x1.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?recnum=%3c961203104947.27388.1
0128@ferret.ocunix.on.ca%3e&server=db96q5&CONTEXT=880230618.171
573292&hitnum=0

http://x1.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?recnum=%3c960928114205.39898.2
3846@ferret.ocunix.on.ca%3e&server=db96q4&CONTEXT=880230726.132
448868&hitnum=39

http://x1.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?recnum=%3cREPOST-10112.6913757
32422.961105093120.10528A@crl.crl.com%3e&server=db96q4&CONTEXT=
880230726.132448868&hitnum=26

http://x1.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?recnum=%3c961114165134.33106.7
141@ferret.ocunix.on.ca%3e&server=db96q4&CONTEXT=880230726.1324
48868&hitnum=40

http://x1.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?recnum=%3c961113095731.63238.1
5000@ferret.ocunix.on.ca%3e&server=db96q4&CONTEXT=880230726.132
448868&hitnum=53

http://x1.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?recnum=%3c19970325.02.56247@oh
ww.norman.ok.us%3e&server=db97p1&CONTEXT=880230726.132448868&hi
tnum=51

http://x1.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?recnum=%3c961228201429.29571A-
NANA@crl7.crl.com%3e&server=db96q5&CONTEXT=880230726.132448868&
hitnum=61

http://x1.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?recnum=%3c961216092252.1825A-N
ANA@crl13.crl.com%3e&server=db96q5&CONTEXT=880230726.132448868&
hitnum=62

http://x1.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?recnum=%3c970117002447.17926A@
crl2.crl.com%3e&server=db96q5&CONTEXT=880230726.132448868&hitnu
m=66

http://x1.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?recnum=%3c970116174649.14861A@
crl10.crl.com%3e&server=db96q5&CONTEXT=880230726.132448868&hitn
um=67

http://x1.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?recnum=%3c970111114731.62720.4
577@ferret.ocunix.on.ca%3e&server=db96q5&CONTEXT=880230726.1324
48868&hitnum=68

http://x1.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?recnum=%3c961106130058.63046.1
5685@ferret.ocunix.on.ca%3e&server=db96q4&CONTEXT=880230726.132
448868&hitnum=86

http://x1.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?recnum=%3c961107102730.54902.2
5269@ferret.ocunix.on.ca%3e&server=db96q4&CONTEXT=880230726.132
448868&hitnum=94

http://x1.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?recnum=%3c961119120658.34428.1
1975@ferret.ocunix.on.ca%3e&server=db96q4&CONTEXT=880230726.132
448868&hitnum=107


This is, of course, only the tip of the iceberg.  Some of the references
are more obvious than others.  To say there weren't numerous spam problems
related to the Nose is ridiculous.

(There still are spam problems there.  Something has to be done about 
that)


Stan

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From: Stan Kalisch III <sjkiii@crl.com>
Subject: Nose Abuse/Spam Problems (was: Re: Alt.net UDP re-proposed. Email correspondence to follow.)
Date: 1997/11/22
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