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pavanas@meridio.ccia.com (pavanas abludo incusus) wrote:

>On Tue, 11 Nov 1997 04:05:03 GMT,
> Politas <politas@dynamite.com.au> mused and hath written:
>
>>pavanas@meridio.ccia.com (pavanas abludo incusus) wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 10 Nov 1997 03:39:58 GMT,
>>> Politas <politas@dynamite.com.au> mused and hath written:
>>>
>>>trimmed
>>>
>>>>Well, when the domain does nothing to allow people to filter out
>>>>individual users (like having any consistent header information), then
>>>>there is no other way to stop those few who are causing trouble.
>>>>
>>>Those who will `adjust' their software to avoid filtration will hardly be
>>>deterred by any given policy, they will simply move when conditions suit
>>>not their fancy, and what then is accomplished?
>>
>>Eventually, they run out of places to move to.  Anyway, the point I am
>>making is that Altopia's policy leads to all of their users being
>>clumped together as a single group.  That's their policy, which may
>>lead to their users having problems.  Maybe the Altopia users who
>>aren't abusing the system should change to different providers.
>>
>Why should the majority be punished for the sins of the minority, a
>minority that by its action creates the illusion of being a majority?

If there is no reliable way to tell the majority and the minority
apart, then all you can do is treat them all the same.  As I said
before.  We have no way of telling who posted the "mahmud" trolls, for
instance; it could be anyone with an altopia account.  More serious
problems from altopia are similarly untraceable to individuals.  What
else can be done, other than actions which affect the entire domain?
The intention is that the majority will then force the provider to
include some way of distinguishing them, or change providers.

Lets do an analogy:  Say you have a public picnic ground, with
barbecues and barques tools provided.  If a single person keeps
stealing the tools, eventually, they'll have to be chained down or
taken away.  Everyone suffers because there is no accountability.  You
can contrast this situation to change rooms in stores, where you are
given a ticket for each item you take in, so there is accountability.

[stuff about the kooks shooting themselves in the foot snipped]
-- 
        Politas

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