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On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 06:15:20 -0000, Robert Miles <robertmiles@bellsouthnospam.net> wrote:

>
> "Peter Hucker" <none@spam.com> wrote in message
> news:op.umr78dv04buhsv@fx62.mshome.net...
>> On Fri, 26 Dec 2008 04:26:57 -0000, Robert Miles
>> <robertmiles@bellsouthnospam.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "Peter Hucker" <none@spam.com> wrote in message
>>> news:op.umqgb1oy4buhsv@fx62.mshome.net...
>>>> On Thu, 25 Dec 2008 05:24:36 -0000, Robert Miles
>>>> <robertmiles@bellsouthnospam.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Peeassha" <peaashcha@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:gitqso$rcb$1@news.motzarella.org...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Gregory Hall" <greghall@home.fake> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:2eq9bi.mju.17.1@news.alt.net...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <noway@jose.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:ioh4l458rqi4nbhsbcch0b7r8lkhvg0hk7@4ax.com...

>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Altopia stands head and shoulders above all the others.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Generally you will find the fault lies with the "free newsservers."
>>>>>>> Taken
>>>>>>> as a whole they are little more than amateur attempts to provide
>>>>>>> professional service and they are lacking more often than not. If you
>>>>>>> want to download binaries you have to pay or else you spend the
>>>>>>> majority
>>>>>>> of your time frustrated because of incompletes. Even some of the
>>>>>>> lower
>>>>>>> tier pay servers (octanews comes to mind of late) seem to have
>>>>>>> chronic
>>>>>>> problems with incompletes as evidenced by posts to their support
>>>>>>> group.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's unfortunate that inept, amateur free NSPs have gotten numerous
>>>>>>> enough that they now seem to be giving ALL NSPs a bad name. The good
>>>>>>> folks at NANA and NANU need to look into this problem because if
>>>>>>> there's
>>>>>>> a case of REAL abuse of the network it's these amateur NSPs wreaking
>>>>>>> havoc with the network while they pretend to be something that
>>>>>>> actually
>>>>>>> does the job.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Gregory Hall
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> AIOE was certainly the cause of a lot of this with their stupid
>>>>>> useless
>>>>>> filters which backfired and loused up everything. Why would they even
>>>>>> consider filtering when usenet is supposed to be an open forum?
>>>>> So you enjoy reading spam and messages from trolls?  Since my
>>>>> newsreader
>>>>> program isn't especially good at filtering out the spammers and trolls
>>>>> who
>>>>> keep changing their return addresses, I'd prefer to have the newsgroups
>>>>> arrive with them already filtered out.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've already created about 1000 rules to filter out unwanted posts
>>>>> from those who don't keep changing their return addresses.
>>>>>
>>>>> Robert Miles
>>>>
>>>> You assume they only filter what you want them to filter.....
>>>>
>>>> Peter Hucker
>>> .
>>> So let those who can afford it also offer an unfiltered option for those
>>> who prefer that.  I'd still prefer an option to have the spam and trolls
>>> filtered out, at no extra charge, for those whose software can't do it.
>>> Or, alternatively, a requirement for all newsreader programs to offer
>>> the option of filtering by IP address of the original poster if that
>>> newsreader is included in anything still being sold, such as Vista, and
>>> also offer the option of importing and exporting the filtering rules so
>>> I can share my filtering rules with anyone with the same opinions of
>>> what to filter out.
>>>
>>> Robert Miles
>>
>> IP address?  What's mine?
>>
>> Peter Hucker
>>
> You're one of the few people I've seen posting messages with headers
> that don't show the IP address.  Filtering out the spammers and trolls
> whose headers show a constant IP address would be a big improvement,
> even if there are a few who wouldn't be filtered out that way.
>
> Robert Miles

I haven't checked, but I assumed all spammers with any sense (ok maybe that's an oxymoron) hid their IP.

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