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Re: "Follower of the Clawed Albino" on the war path against Altopia

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From: Ralph Lindberg & Ellen Winnie
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 00:00
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In article <199711091229277999371@gbyshenk.tezcat.com>,
gbyshenk@tezcat.com (gregory byshenk) wrote:
>But if I'm reading this correctly, any call for a UDP is not
>due _only_ to a few users causing trouble.  Rather, it is due
>to some number of users causing trouble, and the provider in
>question doing nothing about it.
  NO FOCA complaint is that Altopia (CC) is not -telling- what he is or is
not doing.  CC doesn't tell much of about what he does to stop abuse,  out
of respect for the privacy of his subscribers. Also, as long as the abuse
is stopped, because it's -none- of FOCA's business what he did.


>Very likely.  And if Altopia refuses to recognize as abusive 
>what everyone else on the net considers to be abuse, then they
>will continue to have problems as people decide that putting
>up with what Altopia considers acceptable is not worth the
>trouble.
  Please see Chris Lewis's posts on this, you will note he has a
-completely- different take on Altopia.  In general (other then the kooks)
I find few people disagree with Chris Lewis about if a service actually
needs a UDP or not, while a lot appear to disagree with FOCA.

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Ralph Lindberg N7BSN       <n7bsn@callsign.net>
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From: rlindber@telebyte.com (Ralph Lindberg & Ellen Winnie)
Subject: Re: "Follower of the Clawed Albino" on the war path against Altopia
Date: 1997/11/10
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