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"Peter Hucker" <none@spam.com> wrote in message 
news:op.umzot7az4buhsv@fx62.mshome.net...
> On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 06:15:20 -0000, Robert Miles 
> <robertmiles@bellsouthnospam.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> "Peter Hucker" <none@spam.com> wrote in message
>> news:op.umr78dv04buhsv@fx62.mshome.net...
>>> On Fri, 26 Dec 2008 04:26:57 -0000, Robert Miles
>>> <robertmiles@bellsouthnospam.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Peter Hucker" <none@spam.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:op.umqgb1oy4buhsv@fx62.mshome.net...
>>>>> On Thu, 25 Dec 2008 05:24:36 -0000, Robert Miles
>>>>> <robertmiles@bellsouthnospam.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Peeassha" <peaashcha@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:gitqso$rcb$1@news.motzarella.org...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Gregory Hall" <greghall@home.fake> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:2eq9bi.mju.17.1@news.alt.net...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <noway@jose.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:ioh4l458rqi4nbhsbcch0b7r8lkhvg0hk7@4ax.com...
>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Altopia stands head and shoulders above all the others.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Generally you will find the fault lies with the "free newsservers."
>>>>>>>> Taken
>>>>>>>> as a whole they are little more than amateur attempts to provide
>>>>>>>> professional service and they are lacking more often than not. If 
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>> want to download binaries you have to pay or else you spend the
>>>>>>>> majority
>>>>>>>> of your time frustrated because of incompletes. Even some of the
>>>>>>>> lower
>>>>>>>> tier pay servers (octanews comes to mind of late) seem to have
>>>>>>>> chronic
>>>>>>>> problems with incompletes as evidenced by posts to their support
>>>>>>>> group.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's unfortunate that inept, amateur free NSPs have gotten numerous
>>>>>>>> enough that they now seem to be giving ALL NSPs a bad name. The 
>>>>>>>> good
>>>>>>>> folks at NANA and NANU need to look into this problem because if
>>>>>>>> there's
>>>>>>>> a case of REAL abuse of the network it's these amateur NSPs 
>>>>>>>> wreaking
>>>>>>>> havoc with the network while they pretend to be something that
>>>>>>>> actually
>>>>>>>> does the job.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Gregory Hall
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> AIOE was certainly the cause of a lot of this with their stupid
>>>>>>> useless
>>>>>>> filters which backfired and loused up everything. Why would they 
>>>>>>> even
>>>>>>> consider filtering when usenet is supposed to be an open forum?
>>>>>> So you enjoy reading spam and messages from trolls?  Since my
>>>>>> newsreader
>>>>>> program isn't especially good at filtering out the spammers and 
>>>>>> trolls
>>>>>> who
>>>>>> keep changing their return addresses, I'd prefer to have the 
>>>>>> newsgroups
>>>>>> arrive with them already filtered out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've already created about 1000 rules to filter out unwanted posts
>>>>>> from those who don't keep changing their return addresses.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Robert Miles
>>>>>
>>>>> You assume they only filter what you want them to filter.....
>>>>>
>>>>> Peter Hucker
>>>> .
>>>> So let those who can afford it also offer an unfiltered option for 
>>>> those
>>>> who prefer that.  I'd still prefer an option to have the spam and 
>>>> trolls
>>>> filtered out, at no extra charge, for those whose software can't do it.
>>>> Or, alternatively, a requirement for all newsreader programs to offer
>>>> the option of filtering by IP address of the original poster if that
>>>> newsreader is included in anything still being sold, such as Vista, and
>>>> also offer the option of importing and exporting the filtering rules so
>>>> I can share my filtering rules with anyone with the same opinions of
>>>> what to filter out.
>>>>
>>>> Robert Miles
>>>
>>> IP address?  What's mine?
>>>
>>> Peter Hucker
>>>
>> You're one of the few people I've seen posting messages with headers
>> that don't show the IP address.  Filtering out the spammers and trolls
>> whose headers show a constant IP address would be a big improvement,
>> even if there are a few who wouldn't be filtered out that way.
>>
>> Robert Miles
>
> I haven't checked, but I assumed all spammers with any sense (ok maybe 
> that's an oxymoron) hid their IP.
>
The ones I've seen posting through Google Groups at least tend to use a
constant IP address, so I wouldn't care if that's not their real IP address.
And since most of the spam I see is posted through Google Groups, that
would allow me to block most of it and help me catch up on the busier
newsgroups that I read.

By the way, I've been an engineer since 1972; retired now, though.

Robert Miles