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Article #87Re: Altopia announces SSL and unthrottled service
From: George G
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 13:44
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 13:44
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"The Happy Hippy" <the.happy.hippy.nntp@ntlworld.com> wrote in news:6v7Fj.10590$Ff4.4572@newsfe5-win.ntli.net: > > "George G" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote ... > >> %steve%@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth) wrote in >> news:1ie7dsq.8jao1gmzjyd8N%%steve%@malloc.co.uk: >> >> > George G <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote: >> > >> >> Many uk groups have been trashed by nym-shifting Altopia >> >> trolls, unnc included. I crossposted there because I >> >> thought someone may like to add something sensible to the >> >> discussion. Sadly the noise level is too high there. >> > >> > <snork> >> >> Did your brain cell misfire? >> >> > That's a lie, this group is amost silent. >> >> It's full of spam and off-topic posts, which are mostly about >> you. There is very little on-topic there as it has been >> trashed. > > No. There's often very little on-topic in u.n.n.c because what > is on-topic is quite narrowly defined. The lack of on-topic > has nothing to do with the group having been trashed, which it > hasn't. When I last visited unnc a few years back the content of the group was for the most part on-topic. You say it hasn't been trashed. We'll have to agree to disagree on that. > You can complain about the noise level in u.n.n.c but you're a > major cause of that along with others who want to cause > disruption by cross-posting their off-topic crap there. > > It's quite ironic that you should be complaining about > Alopia's failure to reign in what you call abuse while > indulging in your off-topic cross-posting. Shouldn't you be > complaining to your own NSP about your own abuse ? My complaint was about nym-shifting to avoid the killfile. I can be killfiled and stay killfiled. That said, I've had my say and will not add to the noise of unnc anymore unless I see a reply to a post of mine that needs addressing. > I note you also made the unsupported claim that, "Altopia > sells itself as the NSP that allows its customers to > nym-shift". Called on to prove that claim I note you have > failed to do so. You've not been following this thread very carefully then. Chris Caputo was advertising his new improved service on abn-s-c. A potential new customer asked him "Do you have any kind of "Don't frequently nymshift to evade kill-files" policy?". CC replied "No". The potential new customer also asked him "If a troll was nym- shifting several times a day to disrupt a news group would you ask them to stop?". Again CC replied "No". MID: <1np63u.7ve.19.1@news.alt.net> HTH.
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X-Google-Thread: fd665,6115a8c8c2b1aaa6 X-Google-Thread: fcb2a,279b6242dd28ae27 X-Google-Attributes: gidfd665,gidfcb2a,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!g2news1.google.com!news4.google.com!out02b.usenetserver.com!news.usenetserver.com!in01.usenetserver.com!news.usenetserver.com!in04.usenetserver.com!news.usenetserver.com!nx02.iad01.newshosting.com!newshosting.com!novia!novia!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!news-in-01.newsfeed.easynews.com!core-easynews!easynews.com!easynews!en-nntp-04.am2.easynews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Newsgroups: altnet.general,alt.binaries.news-server-comparison,uk.net.news.config Subject: Re: Altopia announces SSL and unthrottled service From: George G <invalid@invalid.invalid> References: <1nbpp8.mcu.19.1@news.alt.net> <Xns9A66CC4A0A43YAsfKJXSTO@194.117.143.38> <1np63u.7ve.19.1@news.alt.net> <QnPEj.29184$fB7.28447@en-nntp-06.dc1.easynews.com> <1ie5pnf.40a1jt1ny3nb3N%%steve%@malloc.co.uk> <5OQEj.23210$Uf4.5433@en-nntp-08.dc1.easynews.com> <1ie5usf.rjyt0x1nb3i00N%%steve%@malloc.co.uk> <viSEj.666267$X56.130657@fe06.news.easynews.com> <1ie62xd.w3wmfj1f4nmgbN%%steve%@malloc.co.uk> <evWEj.155545$r03.140492@fe10.news.easynews.com> <1ie6fdi.ol4pdzv1snggN%%steve%@malloc.co.uk> <v9YEj.72411$Gv.70404@en-nntp-07.dc1.easynews.com> <1ie6h7f.y1r31yalk1a4N%%steve%@malloc.co.uk> <gOYEj.29196$fB7.2510@en-nntp-06.dc1.easynews.com> <khm8u3dvspqaitag369tnio08mc0anmnkg@4ax.com> <d0ZEj.48239$ea6.46157@en-nntp-01.dc1.easynews.com> <oan8u31vaffq9egq04qi2fei6f7kbbiqnl@4ax.com> <Iq6Fj.6334$yq3.4452@en-nntp-07.am2.easynews.com> <1ie7dsq.8jao1gmzjyd8N%%steve%@malloc.co.uk> <8b7Fj.192247$3y2.295@fe08.news.easynews.com> <6v7Fj.10590$Ff4.4572@newsfe5-win.ntli.net> Organization: Not Altopia User-Agent: Xnews/5.04.25 Lines: 65 Message-ID: <E28Fj.8199$Ic5.2737@en-nntp-04.am2.easynews.com> X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynews.com X-Complaints-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly. Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 13:44:04 GMT X-Original-Bytes: 4373