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Re: Altopia announces SSL and unthrottled service

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From: George G
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 13:44
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"The Happy Hippy" <the.happy.hippy.nntp@ntlworld.com> wrote in
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> 
> "George G" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote ...
> 
>> %steve%@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth) wrote in
>> news:1ie7dsq.8jao1gmzjyd8N%%steve%@malloc.co.uk:
>>
>> > George G <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Many uk groups have been trashed by nym-shifting Altopia
>> >> trolls, unnc included. I crossposted there because I
>> >> thought someone may like to add something sensible to the
>> >> discussion. Sadly the noise level is too high there.
>> >
>> > <snork>
>>
>> Did your brain cell misfire?
>>
>> > That's a lie, this group is amost silent.
>>
>> It's full of spam and off-topic posts, which are mostly about
>> you. There is very little on-topic there as it has been
>> trashed. 
> 
> No. There's often very little on-topic in u.n.n.c because what
> is on-topic is quite narrowly defined. The lack of on-topic
> has nothing to do with the group having been trashed, which it
> hasn't. 

When I last visited unnc a few years back the content of the group 
was for the most part on-topic. You say it hasn't been trashed. 
We'll have to agree to disagree on that.
 
> You can complain about the noise level in u.n.n.c but you're a
> major cause of that along with others who want to cause
> disruption by cross-posting their off-topic crap there.
> 
> It's quite ironic that you should be complaining about
> Alopia's failure to reign in what you call abuse while
> indulging in your off-topic cross-posting. Shouldn't you be
> complaining to your own NSP about your own abuse ?

My complaint was about nym-shifting to avoid the killfile. I can be 
killfiled and stay killfiled. That said, I've had my say and will 
not add to the noise of unnc anymore unless I see a reply to a post 
of mine that needs addressing.

> I note you also made the unsupported claim that, "Altopia
> sells itself as the NSP that allows its customers to
> nym-shift". Called on to prove that claim I note you have
> failed to do so. 

You've not been following this thread very carefully then.
Chris Caputo was advertising his new improved service on abn-s-c. A 
potential new customer asked him "Do you have any kind of "Don't 
frequently nymshift to evade kill-files" policy?".
CC replied "No".
The potential new customer also asked him "If a troll was nym-
shifting several times a day to disrupt a news group would you ask 
them to stop?".
Again CC replied "No".
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HTH.
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Subject: Re: Altopia announces SSL and unthrottled service
From: George G <invalid@invalid.invalid>
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