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Re: Altopia announces SSL and unthrottled service

#89
From: Steve Firth
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 13:58
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George G <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> "The Happy Hippy" <the.happy.hippy.nntp@ntlworld.com> wrote in
> news:6v7Fj.10590$Ff4.4572@newsfe5-win.ntli.net: 
> 
> > 
> > "George G" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote ...
> > 
> >> %steve%@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth) wrote in
> >> news:1ie7dsq.8jao1gmzjyd8N%%steve%@malloc.co.uk:
> >>
> >> > George G <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Many uk groups have been trashed by nym-shifting Altopia
> >> >> trolls, unnc included. I crossposted there because I
> >> >> thought someone may like to add something sensible to the
> >> >> discussion. Sadly the noise level is too high there.
> >> >
> >> > <snork>
> >>
> >> Did your brain cell misfire?
> >>
> >> > That's a lie, this group is amost silent.
> >>
> >> It's full of spam and off-topic posts, which are mostly about
> >> you. There is very little on-topic there as it has been
> >> trashed. 
> > 
> > No. There's often very little on-topic in u.n.n.c because what
> > is on-topic is quite narrowly defined. The lack of on-topic
> > has nothing to do with the group having been trashed, which it
> > hasn't. 
> 
> When I last visited unnc a few years back the content of the group 
> was for the most part on-topic. You say it hasn't been trashed. 
> We'll have to agree to disagree on that.
>  
> > You can complain about the noise level in u.n.n.c but you're a
> > major cause of that along with others who want to cause
> > disruption by cross-posting their off-topic crap there.
> > 
> > It's quite ironic that you should be complaining about
> > Alopia's failure to reign in what you call abuse while
> > indulging in your off-topic cross-posting. Shouldn't you be
> > complaining to your own NSP about your own abuse ?
> 
> My complaint was about nym-shifting to avoid the killfile. I can be 
> killfiled and stay killfiled. That said, I've had my say and will 
> not add to the noise of unnc anymore unless I see a reply to a post 
> of mine that needs addressing.
> 
> > I note you also made the unsupported claim that, "Altopia
> > sells itself as the NSP that allows its customers to
> > nym-shift". Called on to prove that claim I note you have
> > failed to do so. 
> 
> You've not been following this thread very carefully then.
> Chris Caputo was advertising his new improved service on abn-s-c. A 
> potential new customer asked him "Do you have any kind of "Don't 
> frequently nymshift to evade kill-files" policy?".
> CC replied "No".
> The potential new customer also asked him "If a troll was nym-
> shifting several times a day to disrupt a news group would you ask 
> them to stop?".
> Again CC replied "No".
> MID: <1np63u.7ve.19.1@news.alt.net>
> HTH.

Keep this crap out of unnc where it is off-topic.
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From: %steve%@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth)
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Subject: Re: Altopia announces SSL and unthrottled service
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