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Re: Altopia announces SSL and unthrottled service

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From: Peter Hucker
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 18:25
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On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 00:00:50 -0000, George G <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> TheApostle <likes-to-fuck@mailme.org> wrote in
> news:MPG.224e075d702dd639897dd@news.sharkpost.org:
>
>> This post, George G <invalid@invalid.invalid>
>> Message-ID:<<twWEj.155553$r03.153884@fe10.news.easynews.com>>
>> may be monitored for quality assurance:
>> |
>> | "Peter Hucker" <none@spam.com> wrote in
>> | news:op.t8dwt9wv4buhsv@fx62:
>> |
>> | > On Fri, 21 Mar 2008 15:49:21 -0000, George G
>> | > <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> | >
>> | >> %steve%@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth) wrote in
>> | >> news:1ie5pnf.40a1jt1ny3nb3N%%steve%@malloc.co.uk:
>> | >>
>> | >>> I don't know why this got cross-posted to unnc, since it
>> | >>> seems to originate elsewhere. However I find it mildly
>> | >>> amusing that someone posting as George G
>> | >>> <invalid@invalid.invalid> should be complaining about
>> | >>> what other users stick in their From: address. It also
>> | >>> seems from here that George G has cross-posted a message
>> | >>> in order to stir up trouble or to harvest howls of
>> | >>> outrage at a statement made by Chris Caputo. Again,
>> | >>> hardly impeccable behaviour.
>> | >>>
>> | >>> FWIW, I've supported Altopia for some time. I disagree
>> | >>> profoundly with the trolls and newsgroup wreckers who
>> | >>> want to drive other users off usenet or to reduce groups
>> | >>> to a smoking wasteland of cascades or kilobytes of
>> | >>> re-posed ASCII art. However I can't blame Chris Caputo
>> | >>> for that. It's the immature individuals concerned that
>> | >>> are the root of the problem and often their "opponents"
>> | >>> such as George G are in exactly the same boat.
>> | >>>
>> | >>> I've found that for genuine net abuse concerns Chris has
>> | >>> been unfailingly polite and helpful. Much more so than
>> | >>> say NTL or BT.
>> | >>
>> | >> The point is that Chris Caputo allows his trolling
>> | >> customers to nym-shift with impunity. That destroys
>> | >> newsgroups. If you don't like what I write, killfile me. I
>> | >> won't nym-shift to defeat the filter.
>> | >
>> | > If he started killing accounts for that, where would he
>> | > draw the line?  What about people using the word "fuck"?
>> |
>> | Did you pass the Altnet intelligence test too?
>>
>> Clearly by the responses you've given in this subject, you are
>> the only troll people have to worry about. With that said, you
>> are the person responsible for your own actions - Easynews is
>> not.
>
> Altopia sells itself as the NSP that allows its customers to nym-
> shift, Easynews does not. That is why nym-shifting trolls use
> Altopia and not Easynews or the other quality NSPs that offer
> better retention, completion and more gigs for less money.
>
>> A NSP is not responsible for the actions of it's customers,
>> anymore than a car marker is responsible for your bad driving.
>
> That's a poor analogy. Would your telephone provider knowingly
> allow you to make anonymous threatening calls? That is a better
> one.

It's nothing to do with the telephone provider.  If I make threatening calls, that's between me and the police.

>>  To apply your logic would be ridiculous.  You're no doubt the
>> same kind of idiot moron who sues the gun company because the
>> gun killed someone, or the cigarette company for getting
>> cancer after smoking their product for 20 years...
>
> My logic? I'm critisising Altopia's policy of allowing nym-shifting
> to troll. That is all.
>
>> A NSP provides you with a privledge of Usenet service, and
>> people have to abide by the TOS/AUP of that service.  If
>> Alt.net's AUP isn't in agreement with your definition of what
>> "works" for Usenet than perhaps you should find another hobby
>> to occupy your pitiful existence, since being a Usenet netcop
>> isn't working out as well as you would have hoped.
>
> Netcop! Ha! You're ASSuming stuff again.
>
>> Instead of trying to shift the blame for the
>> trolling/nymshifting trolls to the NSP/ISP's why don't you
>> quit your whining, stop feeding the nymshifting trolls, grow a
>> thicker set of skin, and learn how to filter properly.
>
> Please show me how to killfile a nym-shifting troll other than by
> the path.

There are many ways.  Look up regular expressions.  Or spot a common theme in their posts.

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