🚀 go-pugleaf

"Ravenwild" <dontemailme@spamkiller.com> wrote in message
news:BA4293C5.C066%dontemailme@spamkiller.com...
> in article k5RS9.2350$hG5.629541@news1.west.cox.net, Angelo at
> jamesvigATT@cox.net wrote on 1/8/03 3:14 AM:
>
> >
> > "Ravenwild" <dontemailme@spamkiller.com> wrote in message
> > news:BA4116EC.BF01%dontemailme@spamkiller.com...
> >> Those old ROMS should be free. Heck, Commodore failed as a company.
They
> >> left thousands with no support, no systems, especially CD32 owners. As
> > soon
> >> as they bought one, commodore went under! Do you think they cared that
> >> customers just spent $300 on a dead product! Why the heck should we pay
> > for
> >> ROMS that are not even significant to todays market! Why should we even
> >> support anyone trying to profit off of those old ROMS!?
> >
> > <big SNIP>
> >
> > BECAUSE AI IS NOT COMMODORE, go find Medhi Ali if you want
> > to complain about the past. Oh and BTW, I bought an Amiga in 1986,
> > hmm Commodore went under in 1994, doesn't seem the next day to me
> > for some reason.  Someone always has to be the *last* buyer from a
> > company going under, there is no way to magically make it un-happen.
>
> <Giant SNIP>
>
> If your going to comment at least pay attention! Did I not say CD32's? Did
> you buy an Amiga CD32 in 1986? I think NOT! Cd32's came out in late
1993-94.
> The same year commodore went under, geesh!

Perhaps if you paid attention to your own post instead of looking like a
fool!
"They left thousands with no support"  then you said "especially CD32
owners"
Don't try to claim just CD32 which you didn't at the start. BTW, the
sales figures for the CD32's sold topped ONLY 2k vice millions for all
other Amigas combined.  That and the CD32 IS a game console, you know
you are buying a damn soon to be obsolete product at the start by it's
very nature.  Gee, any Sega Genesis owners out there?  Jaguar?
Nintendo Super System?
And did the people working at Commodore care? You better believe they
did, or perhaps you haven't seen the Deathbed Vigil video yet?
Or how about perusing the old groups msgs from employees, engineers,
programmers over the colapse of Commodore.
Quit crying over spilt milk already. Commodore died in 1994!
Now what the hell has that to do with making the OS free now?
Specifically the 3.1 kickstart roms which you *need* in order to
run the latest OS updates to 3.9 which is probably this biggest push
for the warez kiddies to grab the 3.1 kickstart roms, they can't run
any higher AmigaOS without them.

> > And the irony drivels on. Obviously people *want* them so there is
> > a market *for* them.  You just spent a good 2 pages of drivel explaining
> > how they "aren't" worth anything?  Yup 2 pages worth just to say they
> > aren't worth anything.  Hmmm obviously they are.
> >
> > Jim
>
> <Gargantuan SNIP>
>
> Want, has nothing to do with it. Of course people want them! H-E-L-L-O!?
> And where in my post did I ever say they were worthless? Can't find it can
> you? I said they are insignificant to todays market.

You seem to be having major comprehension problems.
If they are so sought after which they obviously are by the numbers of
people crying for them, they are NOT insignifigant in today's market.
You do understand what a market is right?  You don't lump everthing
computer together and call it "today's market"

 Which is absolutley
> true. All you do is spout personal attacks becuase you can't create a
valid
> defending argument.  My post, hardly 2 pages, is perfectly to the point.
> Unlike your remarks which are usless with no defending point.  All just
> useless banter.
> Give me a break, pre OS 4.0+ should be free. Not becuase I want them,
Dude,
> I already have them! But becuase why should anyone pay for something that
is
> clearly not useable for anything but reminissing and some entertainment.
Oh,
> and if your going to try and argue that they can be used for something
other
> that those, im sure there may well be. But why? And why pay for it when
> there are plenty of other applications and OS's that can do it all for
free.
> The joy of playing with old software is fun, but I wouldnt pay for it,
> puh-lease! You are just plain out of line and it's clear you have no
> argument.

Amazing, for someone who doesn't care for it you do drivel on endlessly
trying to prove a negative.  Quick question for you.  If they are so
insignificant and so unuseable why do so many damn people want them.
Why pay for it?  SO you're not just another goddamn thief.
Sorry if that concept is so hard for you to understand but since you
fall into that camp evident by your constant sidelining of what the issue
is, what's the point. If there are so many other OS's to do it, THEN USE
THEM for free.

> Amiga inc. definetly has the right to make money on what they own, theres
no
> questioning that (also stated in my original post). But why bother?

Your argument is a contradiction in itself, first you cry on and on
about how insignifcant it is and how horrible it is to have to pay
for it and it should be free then in the same two faced breath you
state the above gem!

No vast
> amount of income will come from it. Something others clearly understand.
> Even game manufactures realise this by releasing thier old games for free.
> Amiga would do better to release the ROMS and pre OS4.0 for free. For the
> shear benifit of public relations.

Then do cite these numerous game publishers that release their games
for *FREE* also since the OS is the IP of AI they and only they
have the choice to decide what to do with it.  If you don't like it
and it is so wrong then why are you crying here about it instead
of petitioning AI for something?  You just like to bitch for the sake
of bitching.  Nothing new.

                     Jim