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Thanks for responding to my message on the newsgroup.  Its MUCH appreciated.

Ok...  I took a look at the harddrive inside the computer.  In fact, I did
one step better and took a picture of exactly what it looks like.  Evidently
the board & harddrive are both together.  To see EXACTLY what I mean, check
out the picture of the board/harddrive at:
http://home.att.net/~puzzele1/pics/hd1.jpg

Sorry for the bad quality of the photograph but at least now you will have
an idea of what we are dealing with.  Here is EVERYTHING that I could find
written/typed on the harddrive (which is connected to the board):

HARDDRIVE:
Kyocera
Rated voltage 12v, 5v
Model KC-30A
Serial No. 70903119
On the back of the harddrive it has:  B40E31D
There is absolutely no other information I could find on the harddrive

THE BOARD:
Unfortunately there is no information on the board itself other than "FAB
0005478 REV B".  For example, it does NOT say anything like "hard disk
controller" or anything like that whatsoever.  However the board itself
(which is approximately the same size as the harddrive as you can tell from
the provided picture) does have several black colored chips attached to it.
Therefore, here is what the various chips attached to the board say:
OMTI 5527A
ASSY 0005498-C

1002565-C
(C)

GC4.21-0600

OMTI 20513
2214-001

Also.. as you can hopefully tell from the picture, the harddrive has 2
ribbons coming out of it.  One is a wide ribbon, and the second ribon is
approximately half the size.  Both ribbons connect directly into the
attached board that you can see in the picture.

When I turn on the computer, the harddrive does sound like its working.
Hopefully I just need the necessary software to start using it.

In that regard, if you could possibly MAIL me whatever disks you think I
need to start using the harddrive, I would be absolutely grateful.
Unfortunatley, even my workbench 1.2 disk now is getting errors.  Therefore,
I basically have absolutely NO software whatseover for my amiga 2000
computer and/or harddrive.  Accordingly, if you could send me the necessary
software, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE do so.

Lastly, if possible, please also send me a program that will enable me to
transfer software between my PC computer and Amiga cmputer.  I believe I
have the necessary cable (the same cable I use to transfer software via the
parallel port between two PC computers).  However, I do not have the
software for the Amiga computer to do so.

In a nutshell, if anybody could send me ANY software that you think I could
use for my Amiga 2000 computer I would be absolutely grateful.  I will also
be more than happy to reimburse you for your shipping expenses.

My mailing address is:
Chris Puzzele
9 Daniel Drive
Hillsborough, NJ  08844

Thank you once again & Happy Holidays!

PS:  If you are have a TON of amiga software that you might be willing to
sell as well, please let me know approximately disks you have any how much
you want for everything.



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----- Original Message -----
From: Jeff Morris
Newsgroups: amiga.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 3:27 PM
Subject: Re: Amiga 2000 does not see harddrive??


"I-Hate-Spam" wrote:

> In the event anybody gets a chance, PLEASE mail me the likely amiga
> disks I need.  I'll be more than happy to pay the shipping costs.

Hi Chris,

I'd be happy to send you a disk or two, but looking over all of the
messages in this thread, it doesn't appear that you ever determined
conclusively which model of hard drive controller and which type of hard
drive you have in your system (unless I missed a post that is), so I don't
know which one to send you.

There were quite a few different controllers available for the Amiga, from
many different companies, and for at least three different types of hard
drives (MFM, SCSI, and IDE.)  Many of them can be set up using the
hdtoolbox utility that comes with AmigaDOS, but some (like the common
2090/2090A for instance) can not, and require their own special setup
utility.  And, even for the ones that can use hdtoolbox, you will still
need a device driver for your particular controller model. (Despite what
someone else posted, Amiga devices DO need device drivers so that the
operating system can talk to them, just like any device for any computer
system does.  Unlike the x86 PC world however, Amiga device drivers are
often built right in to the ROM on the card, rather than supplied on disk.
This may be why the person who posted that message believes that Amigas
don't use device drivers.)

In any event, if you could take a quick look inside your 2000 and try to
identify which controller and type of drive you have, I can create the
appropriate disk and mail it to you.

Fortunately, most Amiga hard drive controllers I've seen have their model
number clearly printed on them in big letters (again unlike the x86 PC
world), so identifying the controller should be pretty easy to do - just
unscrew the lid, and look for the board with the ribbon cable(s) connected
to it, and read the letters/numbers on it.

Identifying the type of hard drive is fairly easy as well, even if you're
not familiar with different drive types.  Just look at the ribbon cable(s)
that attach it to the controller card: if it's a single cable with 40 wires
in it, it's IDE.  If it's a single cable with 50 wires, it's SCSI, and if
it's two cables, one wide one and one narrow one, then it's MFM.

Anyway, once you've done this, let me know what type of card and drive
you've got, and I'll see if I can find the right disk and mail it to you.

It may turn out that your hard drive is simply bad - we are talking about a
potentially 15 year old system after all, and hard drives are the most
common component in any computer system to fail, even when new. (I actually
killed one just the other day simply by banging it into the case of the
computer while trying to unplug it from the power supply), but as you said,
it's worth a shot before you start replacing hardware.



(By the way, I once found myself in a similar pickle while setting up an
old Commodore 128 to play with - all the software I could ever want for it
was available on the 'net, but not having any way to transfer that first
transfer utility to it, I had kind of a chicken and egg problem, so I know
what you're going through.  Fortunately, a kind gentleman on comp.sys.cbm
sent me a disk to get me started, for which I'll always be grateful.) :-)

 - Jeff


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"Jeff Morris" <xenium@ziggzigg.speedbump.quincy.ma.us> wrote in message
news:Xns92DB9D2CC652Exeniumxenseicom@216.166.71.230...
> "I-Hate-Spam" wrote:
>
> > In the event anybody gets a chance, PLEASE mail me the likely amiga
> > disks I need.  I'll be more than happy to pay the shipping costs.
>
> Hi Chris,
>
> I'd be happy to send you a disk or two, but looking over all of the
> messages in this thread, it doesn't appear that you ever determined
> conclusively which model of hard drive controller and which type of hard
> drive you have in your system (unless I missed a post that is), so I don't
> know which one to send you.
>
> There were quite a few different controllers available for the Amiga, from
> many different companies, and for at least three different types of hard
> drives (MFM, SCSI, and IDE.)  Many of them can be set up using the
> hdtoolbox utility that comes with AmigaDOS, but some (like the common
> 2090/2090A for instance) can not, and require their own special setup
> utility.  And, even for the ones that can use hdtoolbox, you will still
> need a device driver for your particular controller model. (Despite what
> someone else posted, Amiga devices DO need device drivers so that the
> operating system can talk to them, just like any device for any computer
> system does.  Unlike the x86 PC world however, Amiga device drivers are
> often built right in to the ROM on the card, rather than supplied on disk.
> This may be why the person who posted that message believes that Amigas
> don't use device drivers.)
>
> In any event, if you could take a quick look inside your 2000 and try to
> identify which controller and type of drive you have, I can create the
> appropriate disk and mail it to you.
>
> Fortunately, most Amiga hard drive controllers I've seen have their model
> number clearly printed on them in big letters (again unlike the x86 PC
> world), so identifying the controller should be pretty easy to do - just
> unscrew the lid, and look for the board with the ribbon cable(s) connected
> to it, and read the letters/numbers on it.
>
> Identifying the type of hard drive is fairly easy as well, even if you're
> not familiar with different drive types.  Just look at the ribbon cable(s)
> that attach it to the controller card: if it's a single cable with 40
wires
> in it, it's IDE.  If it's a single cable with 50 wires, it's SCSI, and if
> it's two cables, one wide one and one narrow one, then it's MFM.
>
> Anyway, once you've done this, let me know what type of card and drive
> you've got, and I'll see if I can find the right disk and mail it to you.
>
> It may turn out that your hard drive is simply bad - we are talking about
a
> potentially 15 year old system after all, and hard drives are the most
> common component in any computer system to fail, even when new. (I
actually
> killed one just the other day simply by banging it into the case of the
> computer while trying to unplug it from the power supply), but as you
said,
> it's worth a shot before you start replacing hardware.
>
>
>
> (By the way, I once found myself in a similar pickle while setting up an
> old Commodore 128 to play with - all the software I could ever want for it
> was available on the 'net, but not having any way to transfer that first
> transfer utility to it, I had kind of a chicken and egg problem, so I know
> what you're going through.  Fortunately, a kind gentleman on comp.sys.cbm
> sent me a disk to get me started, for which I'll always be grateful.) :-)
>
>  - Jeff
>
>
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