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Article #61Stupid Windows-Style Installers (was Re: AOL instant messenger)
From: Mark Haase
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 00:00
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 00:00
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In article <960911115.1148.0.nnrp-09.c2de6052@news.demon.co.uk>, "Paul Reading" <paul.reading@cp-lighting.co.uk> wrote: > How do I get rid of this, I didn't ask for it! I have deleted all the AOL > files from my hard drive but it persists. I have also removed the extensions > but I still cannot get rid of the little monkey. Any clues? > > Paul How exactly does it persist? Make sure to delete: The application folder and everything inside; The AIM extension in your extensions folder; The AIM context menu from your contextual menu items folder; AIM Startup from your startup folder. I'm just gonna go ahead and vent. I REALLY REALLY HATE how windows installs stuff. For one thing, install shield tells you absolutely nothing about what is going on. Those confusing little bars (there are three?? whuh?) and their correspondingly confusing icons tell you nothing. Then, for each application you get, it puts files in about a half dozen different places. You get stuff in c:/, stuff in the start menu items, you get dll's added in various places, sometimes you get a shortcut on the desktop, and sometimes it even modifies something in your startup files to put an icon in that little box in the bottom right corner (whatever that is). So you can't just delete stuff, you have to "uninstall it". Well that's nice in window's, where the uninstall program is always handy in the start menu, but mac users are used to deleting installers when they're done with them. And unfortunately, while most PC-centric applications spew crap all over your HD like their wintel brethren and fail to leave behind an uninstaller. AIM and RealPlayer are two notorious applications that jump to mind. IE and OE aren't quite as bad but they do make way too many aliases. See, I only like aliases in one place, the desktop. And even then just a few select programs make it to my desktop. All the rest of the important programs stay in one folder which is window tabbed, all the programs I don't care to ever access (like RP) are supposed to stay hidden in the hierarchy. But noooo... they throw crap all over so I can never hide them. And whatever happened to obeying Apple's user interface guidelines? Even Apple is breaking the rules these days, what with the new QT player and all. Sheesh... No wonder mac ports are as obnoxious as their PC originals--there's nobody to enforce the rules.. +===-=--=---=--=-===+===-=--=---=--=-===+ |\/| /| |2 |< savar@email.com http://machelp.habitforming.ath.cx <-- out of order +===-=--=---=--=-===+===-=--=---=--=-===+
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f9688,15d3a351c0067bfc X-Google-Attributes: gidf9688,public X-Google-Thread: f984f,15d3a351c0067bfc X-Google-Attributes: gidf984f,public X-Google-Thread: 1156c9,15d3a351c0067bfc X-Google-Attributes: gid1156c9,public X-Google-Thread: 108f98,15d3a351c0067bfc X-Google-Attributes: gid108f98,public X-Google-Thread: 10e148,15d3a351c0067bfc X-Google-Attributes: gid10e148,public X-Google-Thread: f9258,15d3a351c0067bfc X-Google-Attributes: gidf9258,public From: savar@email.com (Mark Haase) Subject: Stupid Windows-Style Installers (was Re: AOL instant messenger) Date: 2000/06/13 Message-ID: <savar-1306001349300001@192.168.1.100> X-Deja-AN: 634071306 Approved: yes References: <960911115.1148.0.nnrp-09.c2de6052@news.demon.co.uk> X-Trace: news2.atl 960918570 216.78.140.206 (Tue, 13 Jun 2000 13:49:30 EDT) X-Face: ft6%;y$i7:]ob5kf*8%pcn1-OU`\xHVh}!%bENUk_cJ")~\_idi<JD66;EcH' f'Sn5&z]NUFXeKwH Organization: habitforming - macHelp x-archive: no NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 13:49:30 EDT Newsgroups: aol.internet,aol.misc,aol.newsgroups.help,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.system,netscape.public ahbou: no