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On 7 Jun 1997 02:02:54 GMT, lindych1@aol.com (LindyCH1) wrote:

>Maybe "aol.newsreader.cant.edit.headers" but until I read Art Stone's and
>Smokin' Dave's trolls of aol.newsgroups.help with incomplete and
>inaccurate information, I never had any need to change a header.

Unfortunately, this is part of the reason why AOLers are so famous for
"me too" threads. AOL users are unable to reply to a massively
crossposted spam without replying to *every* newsgroup it originally
appeared in. I can tell you that when I used AOL, there were several
times I wanted to edit headers, and couldn't.

>However, as you can see, there are ways around that.

Yeah. Copy and paste into a whole new message. Many AOLers aren't
bright enough to figure that out anyway, and it's a needless pain in
the butt. With a real newsreader like Agent, it's quick and easy.
However, so is quoting and attribution, killfiling, sorting by author,
subject, or date, ROT-13, jumping to URLs posted in a Usenet message,
finding messages, cancelling posts and many other things.

AOL's news shredder is a dinosaur when it comes to software, and AOL
has no excuse for making people use it. If they'd just upgrade their
"service" so they could supply a news server name, you could use any
newsreader you wanted. That's just one of many reasons to can AOL and
find a real ISP.

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>Smokin' Dave (he of no attributions) is not so accurate:
>
>In article <33989153.158638504@news.pipeline.com>,
>magicratt@13pipeline.com (SmokinDave) writes:
>
>>AOL's version of MSIE is an insult to serious websurfers everywhere,
>>and I wouldn't recommend trying to learn on it either. However, AOL
>>DID have a version of Netscape (Go to keyword: NETSCAPE, then
>>download it), which was a little better, but my advice is to not waste
>>you time with either one of them.
>
>AOL's integrated version of MSIE was/is the 3.01 - the one with the
>security bug - and 3.02 is now recommended.
>
>Keyword: Netscape no longer exists, nor does an "AOL version of Netscape"
>as far as I know.  There are both 16-bit and 32-bit versions of Netscape
>available at Keyword: PCW Netscape, or download them from the Netscape
>website.

Unfortunately, from AOL, you have to go through AOL's proxy server to
browse the web. This is a bandage for their super slow hardware which
they refuses to upgrade. It's still slower than molasses on a January
morning in Fairbanks, Alaska. And forget popular pages that update
frequently like those with stock quotes, news, weather, or those live
cam pages. You'll get an outdated version nearly every time with AOL.

>>If you MUST keep AOL, do so, but if you intend on spending any quality
>>Webtime, get a separate ISP, then use the 'real' MSIE or Netscape.
>>Also, by doing it this way, you can get AOL  for only $9.95/month
>>unlimited, when you access it through your other ISP (using a TCP/IP
>>setup). It's a lot easier than it sounds, believe me.
>>
>>                   ���Smokin'Dave���
>
>Why would anyone spend $30, when they can do the same thing for $20?

They wouldn't. What Smokin'Dave is trying to say is that you *aren't*
getting the same thing for $20. With the $20, you get the busy
signals, dropped connections, and other problems AOL is famous for.
You also get the aforementioned glacial Web browsing and you aren't
able to use a real newsreader. With the $30, you can get fast Web
access and current versions of all pages, and you can use a real
newsreader. You can also use a real mail client like Eudora for e-mail
to your ISP.

>Not
>only that, but I can read any mail that comes in while I'm doing a Whois
>on the ISP of that spammer that just polluted my favorite newsgroup, and
>switch between all three windows without missing a beat.  All while having
>a conversation by Instant Message.

That and much more can be done with an ISP, without even having to pay
the extra $10 a month for AOL.

>With a TCP/IP connection, you can't
>access your mail or your member information,

That's not what I hear. Even if true, simply send everyone who e-mails
you regularly a change of e-mail address message. Then you can use a
real e-mail client and not have to put up with AOL's piss poor excuse
for e-mail.

>and any connection made
>through AOLnet local phone numbers after you sign up for that $9.95 plan
>costs a surcharge of $2.50 an hour..
>
>Use the 'real' MSIE and Netscape now with AOL.  For AOL3.0 for Windows,
>use a 16-bit version of either.  For AOL3.0 for Windows 95, use any 32-bit
>version of either one.  To use them, sign on to AOL, minimize the AOL
>window if you wish, then initiate the browser.

And surf the web with all the speed of a glacier. No thanks...

>Bill, if I'm understanding your original question correctly, you already
>have a MSIE installed, right?  All you need to do is make sure you have a
>compatible version of AOL to use the browser you already have.

Better yet, have a look at http://thelist.iworld.com. Once you find a
good ISP and get it set up, start up AOL and head over to keyword:
Cancel.

HTH


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