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Re: AOL's Newsgroups and Web Browser

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From: Kutulu
Date: Mon, 09 Jun 1997 00:00
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InEdmond <InEdmond@Prodigy.Net> wrote in article
<339B893D.2D28@Prodigy.Net>...
: Art Stone wrote:
: > 
: > Nope.  AOL has no NNTP compatible news server.  You could subscribe to
a
: > 3rd party news service (like www.alt.net), but why not just solve the
: > problem by going to keyword CANCEL?
: 
: This may be true.  I know AOL has an IRC server.  I haven't checked to 
: see if AOL has a compatible news server, since I use Prodigy to read 
: newsgroups.  AOL ver. 4.0 is in beta testing and it is suppost to have an


AOL has no NNTP server.  You can't connect to any AOL news server with any
NNTP news reader.  Instead, you're stuck with the AOL newshredder, which is
severely lacking in ANY of the key features of a decent news reader,
including features you can get from FREE software.
 
: > The MSIE version is only available currently in the Windows95 version
of
: > AOL - and even with that, you're running through AOL's "cached proxy
: > server", which will often show you web pages which are days out of
date.
: > 
: > AOL's proprietary browser is still the integrated browser for win 3.1
: > and macintosh users, and it is more limited that either the MSIE or
: > Netscape browsers.
: 
: Incorrect Info.  I use win 3.1, and on my AOL account I have the new MS 
: IE.  That upgrade was made months ago.  Also, web pages viewed are not 
: out of date.  This guy just likes to bash AOL.
 
Incorrect info yourself.  I have the AOL for Win 3.1, and there was no
universal upgrade to IE.  I don't use AOL for that reason chief among the
many.  They have upgraded their Internal browser a good bit, but it's not
an EXTERNALLY running copy of IE.  AOL did offer users copies of IE and
Netscape for Win 3.1 if you wanted to download it, which I hear integrates
itself with the dialer software, but the majority of AOL's Win 3.1 users
are stuck with the crapware they call a browser.

And, AOL users who surf the web will receive pages primarily from a proxy
web server, and only if the page isn't there will it retrieve the page from
the actual server.  Thus, if you view a page 4 times a day, that is changed
4 times a day, you won't see a single change until the cached version of
the page expires.  This is in addition to the cache on your own machine,
and is something the user has no control over.  I, among many other's in
alt.aol-sucks, can attest to the fact that AOL users often fill out forms
on my page that haven't been online for weeks.

: > Oh, the folks at alt.aol-sucks (like me) enjoy explaining how AOL works
: > to people who are interested.  We also are not constrained by having 
: >our messages removed if AOL's CAT doesn't like what we say.
: 
: All you'll get from posting to alt.aol-sucks are the opinions of people 
: that hate, are unsatified, or have never used AOL.  You must form your 
: own opinion of AOL.  I for one love AOL.
: 
: Clint

What you get at alt.aol-sucks are the opinions of many many people who have
used AOL, discovered that it has many MAJOR flaws that make it utterly
useless as an online service, and want to inform others who haven't been so
lucky yet.  You learn that AOL is *not* the Internet, despite advertising
to the contrary; you learn that AOL is *not* secure; you learn that AOL is
*not* a family service.  You get the opinions of people who know better
than to love AOL and are more than willing to show you just how horrible it
is.

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From: "Kutulu" <kutulu@NfOlSaPsAhM.net>
Subject: Re: AOL's Newsgroups and Web Browser
Date: 1997/06/09
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