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6 total messages Started by Louella Friesen Tue, 28 Jan 1997 00:00
The Golden Spruce Tree on Haida Gwaii
#42
Author: Louella Friesen
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 00:00
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On January 24, 1997 someone swam to the Golden Spruce tree, with a chainsaw
and cut down the 300 year old Golden Spruce Tree in a protest against
"university trained professionals" (whatever he meant by that). The tree is
part of the Haida culture and legends. The people of Haida Gwaii were
stunned by the banality of this action. Having recently taken a group of
students to Haida Gwaii (islands of the coast of Prince Rupert, B.C.)
I too mourn at the loss of this piece of heritage. The protestor was
arrested and said he had meant no disrespect to the Haida. This makes no
sense to me.
Re: The Golden Spruce Tree on Haida Gwaii
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Author: Jordan S. Dill
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 00:00
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Louella Friesen wrote:
> 
> On January 24, 1997 someone swam to the Golden Spruce tree, with a chainsaw
> and cut down the 300 year old Golden Spruce Tree in a protest against
> "university trained professionals" (whatever he meant by that). The tree is
> part of the Haida culture and legends.

	"How serious the worship of trees was in former times may be
gathered from the ferocious penalty appointed by the old German laws for
such as dared to peel the bark of a standing tree. The culprits navel
was to be cut out and nailed to the part of the tree he had peeled, and
he was to be driven round and round the tree till all his guts were
wound about its trunk. The intention of the punishment clearly was to
replace the dead bark by a living substitute taken from the culprit; it
was a life for a life, the life of a man for the life of a tree."
 			      ...The Golden Bough, Sir James George Frazier
-- 
                                   Ayatohihi...
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Re: The Golden Spruce Tree on Haida Gwaii
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Author: karen johnstone
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 00:00
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If you travel through Delta, Colorado, stop and visit the Ute Council Tree. 
It is a cottonwood of immense age and girth, but it is reported to be dying. 
It is of great significance, and if you do visit, you will understand.
  
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Re: The Golden Spruce Tree on Haida Gwaii
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Author: Loupiotte
Date: Mon, 03 Feb 1997 00:00
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Jordan S. Dill <jsd@dickshovel.com> wrote:

> Louella Friesen wrote:
> > 
> > On January 24, 1997 someone swam to the Golden Spruce tree, with a chainsaw
> > and cut down the 300 year old Golden Spruce Tree in a protest against
> > "university trained professionals" (whatever he meant by that). The tree is
> > part of the Haida culture and legends.
> 
>       "How serious the worship of trees was in former times may be
> gathered from the ferocious penalty appointed by the old German laws for
> such as dared to peel the bark of a standing tree. The culprits navel
> was to be cut out and nailed to the part of the tree he had peeled, and
> he was to be driven round and round the tree till all his guts were
> wound about its trunk. The intention of the punishment clearly was to
> replace the dead bark by a living substitute taken from the culprit; it
> was a life for a life, the life of a man for the life of a tree."
>                             ...The Golden Bough, Sir James George Frazier

We should thank the 'university trained profesionals' for taking
cuttings from that self same tree and planting them elsewhere.  I
believe I heard on the news Jan. 31 that the Haida have accepted the
saplings [5 years old I think] as a gift to replace the one cut down.
My understanding was they there were two saplings and, although they
were alive, they would do much better in their 'home soil'.  May they
live long in their new home.

Lone Heart
Re: The Golden Spruce Tree on Haida Gwaii
#101
Author: Jordan S. Dill
Date: Mon, 03 Feb 1997 00:00
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Loupiotte wrote:
> 
> Jordan S. Dill <jsd@dickshovel.com> wrote:
> 
> > Louella Friesen wrote:
> > >
> > > On January 24, 1997 someone swam to the Golden Spruce tree, with a chainsaw
> > > and cut down the 300 year old Golden Spruce Tree in a protest against
> > > "university trained professionals" (whatever he meant by that). The tree is
> > > part of the Haida culture and legends.

	It was pointed out to me that "someone" would have a very hard time
"swimming" across the channel to this tree while carrying a
chainsaw...if anyone has any advice as to how this might have been done
would you please pass the advice along?

-- 
                                   Ayatohihi...
                 First Nations/First Peoples Issues Of Consequence
                          <http://www.dickshovel.com>
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Re: The Golden Spruce Tree on Haida Gwaii
#102
Author: Richard Shannon
Date: Thu, 06 Feb 1997 00:00
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In article <32F64A25.30A6@dickshovel.com>, jsd@pobox.com wrote:
         It was pointed out to me that "someone" would have a very hard time
> "swimming" across the channel to this tree while carrying a
> chainsaw...if anyone has any advice as to how this might have been done
> would you please pass the advice along?
> 
This would be easy. Tie the chainsaw (already fueled) to an inner tube from
a car tire. Tie another rope to the tube on one end and a human waist on
the other. Swim the river. Pull the tube out and untie the saw. Do the
awful and toughtless deed. Replace saw on tube. Swim back across. Pull tube
and saw from river and be on the way. A sad state of affairs. My
condolences to the tribal people affected. And cheers to the University who
came up with the seedlings.

Richard Shannon
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"There are no final truths. The scientific mind does not so much provide
the right answers as ask the right questions." 
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