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[Buecher] Over a Torrent Sea (Spoiler)
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Baerbel Haddrell
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Dies ist meine Besprechung des neuesten Star Trek Titan Bandes: Over a 
Torrent Sea von Christopher L. Bennett



S P O I L E R

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*

I think �Over a Torrent Sea� and Christopher L. Bennett`s first Titan 
book �Orion`s Hounds� have a lot in common. I was impressed how he 
introduced us readers to a very diverse and fascinating world of space 
born beings in his first Titan book. In �Over a Torrent Sea� he is 
exploring a water world and also this time I felt like an explorer 
discovering an alien world with a lot of diversity and beauty. 
Especially now after the Borg invasion there are some people in the 
fandom who want a stronger emphasis on the theme of discovering new 
worlds and civilizations. I think these fans should try the Titan series 
and especially both books of this series written by Mr Bennett.

On the other hand both books have the problem that the science presented 
by the author can be overwhelming. Especially towards the last third of 
the book there are paragraphs I couldn`t process properly. I am not a 
scientist and there were times when I felt overwhelmed. I neither had 
the knowledge nor the patience to spend much time with these details and 
just skimmed over them.

As much as I appreciate the impressive world building of this story, to 
me it is indeed first of all a background. What mainly counts are the 
characters and also from that perspective, this book has a lot to offer.

Exploring a water world provided the ideal opportunity to explore Lavena 
more, a Starfleet officer who comes from an underwater civilization and 
who needs a special suit allowing her to breathe when she leaves her 
quarters. I must admit, before I read this book Lavena was one of the 
Titan characters I was least interested in. In this book we learn a lot 
about her, about her culture, her family, her strengths but also her 
weaknesses. Lavena became a much more three dimensional character. There 
is a lot I learned that makes her likeable but also a lot I have 
problems with on a personal level. I understand why Lavena was an 
irresponsible mother and although I have some sympathy for her and her 
problems I am not willing to excuse bad choices in life with bad 
experiences when the person was young. Being a mother myself I find it 
difficult to forgive her past attitude and have even more problems with 
it that she nearly left Riker to die on that floating island. It seems 
Lavena finally decided to learn from her mistakes and is determined to 
do better in future. Good, better late than never. We will see how 
Lavena will be developed in future. On the other hand, who says that all 
officers on Titan have to be likeable?

The confrontation between Lavena and Riker was very interesting and gave 
good insights into both characters. It seems even in the present-day 
Star Trek universe there are human families that are more prudish than 
others. Being a German living in England I can see that there are some 
general differences in attitude and maybe it is realistic that such 
differences in human society didn`t disappear. Therefore I shared 
Riker`s criticism of Lavena`s irresponsible neglect of her children but 
not his view about her sexuality. She is an alien after all and that she 
likes having sexual experiences with several partners is perfectly fine 
in my book if nobody is harmed by it.

Compared to Lavena Riker was the extreme at the other end. I don`t share 
a lot of his attitude but I can respect and understand it. I am not a 
man but I think I can understand that it was more difficult for him than 
it would have been for a naked female captain stuck together with an 
officer who was for a short time a lover. It starts with it that it is a 
fact that men react stronger to looks than women do. The vast majority 
of porn is aimed at men and not at women. Also a naked man can`t hide 
being sexually attracted. In spite I rolled my eyes a bit at Riker`s 
prudish attitude I couldn`t help feeling very sorry for him. His 
frustration and embarrassment was very understandable. That Riker was 
not very well, that his wife could give birth at any moment and that 
Lavena didn`t help at all to defuse the difficult situation only made 
matters worse.

I didn`t expect a quiet, trouble free birth of Deanna`s and Riker`s 
daughter. Such events are always a good opportunity for drama and the 
author made good use of it. After what happened between Deanna and Dr. 
Ree it was necessary to bring the tensions between them to some form of 
conclusion. I agree that Dr. Ree was not responsible for his actions and 
that it is very unlikely that he will enter this extreme �guardian mode� 
again. What he did was frightening but on some other level also very 
touching. I also understand now that Dr. Ree must love children very 
much. My guess is that being rejected by the females of his own kind he 
decided to be a doctor so that he can help children and their families. 
I can also understand better now that what happened between Deanna and 
him was not only traumatic for her but also much more difficult for him 
than I realized. In spite of what happened I can see that Dr. Ree is a 
good person and he would be a good father if he ever gets that chance. I 
think both sides have learned important lessons and I would like it very 
much if Dr. Ree will continue to play a part in the upbringing of the 
little girl in future books.

What I also liked very much is the part Tuvok had in this book. Again, I 
am so glad that he is part of the Titan series and I definitely don`t 
want this to change! I was impressed by his strength of character, how 
he as a Vulcan showed a lot of courage exploring and understanding 
emotions including his own. As it is obvious with Riker and Deanna, also 
in this case it was shown very well that having a wife, a husband, a 
partner with you on board is not only a potential for problems but can 
also be an asset, a source of strength. T`Pel is a remarkable woman. Her 
ability to work with children is impressive and I liked her exchange 
with Noah very much. I think being with a husband who is much more 
emotional than the average Vulcan also helps her to understand emotions 
better. I think she is still thinking that Tuvok`s change is more of a 
disability than the beginning of something positive but it seems there 
is at least a growing understanding. I am curious how this will be 
developed in future, too.

I am very much looking forward to the next Titan book!

Baerbel Haddrell
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"." <.@trekdata.demon.co.uk> ha scritto nel messaggio 
news:FgJxl.144621$q45.119139@newsfe07.ams2...
> Baerbel Haddrell
> ============
>
> Dies ist meine Besprechung des neuesten Star Trek Titan Bandes: Over a 
> Torrent Sea von Christopher L. Bennett
>
>
>
> S P O I L E R
>
> *
>
> *
>
> *
>
> *
>
> I think �Over a Torrent Sea� and Christopher L. Bennett`s first Titan book 
> �Orion`s Hounds� have a lot in common. I was impressed how he introduced 
> us readers to a very diverse and fascinating world of space born beings in 
> his first Titan book. In �Over a Torrent Sea� he is exploring a water 
> world and also this time I felt like an explorer discovering an alien 
> world with a lot of diversity and beauty. Especially now after the Borg 
> invasion there are some people in the fandom who want a stronger emphasis 
> on the theme of discovering new worlds and civilizations. I think these 
> fans should try the Titan series and especially both books of this series 
> written by Mr Bennett.
>
> On the other hand both books have the problem that the science presented 
> by the author can be overwhelming. Especially towards the last third of 
> the book there are paragraphs I couldn`t process properly. I am not a 
> scientist and there were times when I felt overwhelmed. I neither had the 
> knowledge nor the patience to spend much time with these details and just 
> skimmed over them.
>
> As much as I appreciate the impressive world building of this story, to me 
> it is indeed first of all a background. What mainly counts are the 
> characters and also from that perspective, this book has a lot to offer.
>
> Exploring a water world provided the ideal opportunity to explore Lavena 
> more, a Starfleet officer who comes from an underwater civilization and 
> who needs a special suit allowing her to breathe when she leaves her 
> quarters. I must admit, before I read this book Lavena was one of the 
> Titan characters I was least interested in. In this book we learn a lot 
> about her, about her culture, her family, her strengths but also her 
> weaknesses. Lavena became a much more three dimensional character. There 
> is a lot I learned that makes her likeable but also a lot I have problems 
> with on a personal level. I understand why Lavena was an irresponsible 
> mother and although I have some sympathy for her and her problems I am not 
> willing to excuse bad choices in life with bad experiences when the person 
> was young. Being a mother myself I find it difficult to forgive her past 
> attitude and have even more problems with it that she nearly left Riker to 
> die on that floating island. It seems Lavena finally decided to learn from 
> her mistakes and is determined to do better in future. Good, better late 
> than never. We will see how Lavena will be developed in future. On the 
> other hand, who says that all officers on Titan have to be likeable?
>
> The confrontation between Lavena and Riker was very interesting and gave 
> good insights into both characters. It seems even in the present-day Star 
> Trek universe there are human families that are more prudish than others. 
> Being a German living in England I can see that there are some general 
> differences in attitude and maybe it is realistic that such differences in 
> human society didn`t disappear. Therefore I shared Riker`s criticism of 
> Lavena`s irresponsible neglect of her children but not his view about her 
> sexuality. She is an alien after all and that she likes having sexual 
> experiences with several partners is perfectly fine in my book if nobody 
> is harmed by it.
>
> Compared to Lavena Riker was the extreme at the other end. I don`t share a 
> lot of his attitude but I can respect and understand it. I am not a man 
> but I think I can understand that it was more difficult for him than it 
> would have been for a naked female captain stuck together with an officer 
> who was for a short time a lover. It starts with it that it is a fact that 
> men react stronger to looks than women do. The vast majority of porn is 
> aimed at men and not at women. Also a naked man can`t hide being sexually 
> attracted. In spite I rolled my eyes a bit at Riker`s prudish attitude I 
> couldn`t help feeling very sorry for him. His frustration and 
> embarrassment was very understandable. That Riker was not very well, that 
> his wife could give birth at any moment and that Lavena didn`t help at all 
> to defuse the difficult situation only made matters worse.
>
> I didn`t expect a quiet, trouble free birth of Deanna`s and Riker`s 
> daughter. Such events are always a good opportunity for drama and the 
> author made good use of it. After what happened between Deanna and Dr. Ree 
> it was necessary to bring the tensions between them to some form of 
> conclusion. I agree that Dr. Ree was not responsible for his actions and 
> that it is very unlikely that he will enter this extreme �guardian mode� 
> again. What he did was frightening but on some other level also very 
> touching. I also understand now that Dr. Ree must love children very much. 
> My guess is that being rejected by the females of his own kind he decided 
> to be a doctor so that he can help children and their families. I can also 
> understand better now that what happened between Deanna and him was not 
> only traumatic for her but also much more difficult for him than I 
> realized. In spite of what happened I can see that Dr. Ree is a good 
> person and he would be a good father if he ever gets that chance. I think 
> both sides have learned important lessons and I would like it very much if 
> Dr. Ree will continue to play a part in the upbringing of the little girl 
> in future books.
>
> What I also liked very much is the part Tuvok had in this book. Again, I 
> am so glad that he is part of the Titan series and I definitely don`t want 
> this to change! I was impressed by his strength of character, how he as a 
> Vulcan showed a lot of courage exploring and understanding emotions 
> including his own. As it is obvious with Riker and Deanna, also in this 
> case it was shown very well that having a wife, a husband, a partner with 
> you on board is not only a potential for problems but can also be an 
> asset, a source of strength. T`Pel is a remarkable woman. Her ability to 
> work with children is impressive and I liked her exchange with Noah very 
> much. I think being with a husband who is much more emotional than the 
> average Vulcan also helps her to understand emotions better. I think she 
> is still thinking that Tuvok`s change is more of a disability than the 
> beginning of something positive but it seems there is at least a growing 
> understanding. I am curious how this will be developed in future, too.
>
> I am very much looking forward to the next Titan book!
>
> Baerbel Haddrell 
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