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Article #65Re: Rememeber, it doesn't have to be fair, just legal.
From: Dan Steinberg
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 00:00
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 00:00
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Richard J. Sexton wrote: > > At 01:45 PM 4/10/98 -0400, Gordon Cook wrote: > >Tony Rutkowski wrote: On the positive side, they underscore Ira's concerns > >about the critical importance of the NPRM proceeding as a means of > >establishing a lawful foundation for administrative functions, > > > >Cook: it's true we are on unchartered ground, but if the foundation that is > >being laid includes, what looks to me to be, willful failure on behalf of > >the DOJ to defend the actions of a federal agency such that skillful > >attornies are incented to try class action suits I want no part of it. THE > >US GOV'T MAKES BODE A MULTIMILLIONAIRE TO TEACH NSF A LESSON? IS THIS THE > >CIVICS OF THE NEW Internet!? > > Bo, thats just the way the US legal system works and has nothing > to do with the Interent. > > Is the USG going to appeal this ? Can they ? This is a travesty > of the worst order. > Actually, it might be easier for the USG (actually Congress) to retroactively ratify the tax. If Congress ratifies the tax, the judgement becomes sorta moot. Judge Hogan recognized this specifically in the decision. Now, I don't know if the judgement is a travesty or not. People have been saying that the $30 is an illegal tax for a long time. All Bode did was take the time to file papers, something anyone else could have done a long time ago. The only difference is Bode waited until there was some money in the pot. If there's a travesty, (and I'm not sure there is) its sitting on a timebomb without doing something (like asking congress to ratify the tax). FYI, it is important to remember that in an appeal, you don't have a guarantee of winning. You could just lose again. I'm not an expert on this subject, but enough experts say the judge was right for it to be a difficult ruling to appeal. Remember the Boston Tea Party (no I wasn't there. I'm not that old.)? The US constitution has very strong provisions regarding taxation in part because of the context at the time. So don't count on an appeal to 'magically' make this go away. Also, before rushing off to appeal, remember that all of this 'stuff' happened at the motion stage. Bode still needs to get class certification in order to 'collect' big-time. Right now he has just won the right to a refund for his named plaintiffs. There's no need to appeal a decision that applies only to a handful of plaintiffs. If/when Bode get class certification for the case, it becomes more important. FWIW, I'm not putting the $30 US into my accounts receivable file right away. Lots can happen. Dan Steinberg MBA LLB BSc SYNTHESIS:Law & Technology Box 532, RR1 phone: (613) 794-5356 Chelsea, Quebec fax: (819) 827-4398 J0X 1N0 e-mail:dstein@travel-net.com
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 119e45,d1d912b79f494e08,start X-Google-Attributes: gid119e45,public From: dstein@travel-net.com (Dan Steinberg) Subject: Re: Rememeber, it doesn't have to be fair, just legal. Date: 1998/04/13 Message-ID: <35322F5E.1F0AFAB9@travel-net.com> X-Deja-AN: 343617588 Sender: daemon@osiris.wu-wien.ac.at Organization: WU-Wien News Gate: com-priv@lists.psi.com to at.mail.com-priv by usenet@wu-wien.ac.at Reply-To: dstein@travel-net.com Newsgroups: at.mail.com-priv