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Re: connecting 2 computers with card 3com etherlink III 3C509TP without HUB

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From: Etienne Goyer
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 00:00
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Ira Kopilow wrote:
> 
> In article <5t6oq5$pgj@duke.telepac.pt>, avalejo@student.dei.uc.pt says...
> >
> >The windows autodetect the card but in the network neighborhood we can't see
> >the other computer only ours.
> >We have only connected utp cable without hub (it's possible?!).
> >The protocols are ipx/spx and tcp/ip.
> >We can't ping in one computer or another the opposite computer.
> >Any ideas for make this work?
> >
> >regards,
> >
> >Alberto Valejo
> >
> >
> Did you use an off-the-shelf cable?  If 2 computers are hooked to each other
> via a cable, you have to cross the connections.  This is what your
> hub/concentrator/swithc would do.

I am only beginning in networking, sio this is only my very humble
opinion.

Even with a cross-over cable, it wont work.  The hub is doing two thing:
crossing the signal from pair 1-2 to 3-6 and resend it (loopback)on the
RX pair (i dont remember wich one) so the sending computer "see" its
signal.  Using a cross-connected cable will get you a "no external
loopback" error message since the receiving NIC is not doing the
loopback as a hub would(I have tried and have not succeed in Win95). You
should use use a hub (or coax cable, if you can).

Etienne Goyer
etienne@*nospam*quebectel.com
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From: Etienne Goyer <etienne@quebectel.com>
Subject: Re: connecting 2 computers with card 3com etherlink III 3C509TP  without HUB
Date: 1997/08/25
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