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Re: Urgent Issues Far More Serious than Emissions!

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From: Trish
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 00:00
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On Mon, 15 Dec 1997 20:30:40 GMT, kibblesnbits@teleplanet.net
(Alleycat) wrote:

>If you think this issue doesn't concern your newsgroup, you're wrong.
>
>This one concerns everyone and should be addressed regardless of the
>pretty thoughts we would like to hear about at Christmas.   While
>we're sitting back watching our politicians talk about global warming,
>extremely serious weather pattens are happening now, and these
>patterns are causing problems that need more urgent attention than
>emissions!

Guess what?  No matter what they say, there will be no real proof that
this El Nino is causing any real problems for atleast 100 years of
tracking weather patterns.

>
>Right now in Alberta, we're having monster grass fires in the middle
>of winter!!  An 82-year old woman is in the hospital after having
>received second and third degree burns from one of them.  This has
>never before happened, and it's happening because we have had no rain
>for weeks.  

You mean there have *never* been grass fires, in the winter, in the
entire history of Alberta?  Or, do you mean an 82 yr. old woman has
never been hospitalized with second degree burns?  I'm not in the mood
to search either topic,  but I'll bet both have happened before.  May
have been quite a while ago though.

>In Northern Alberta, 18 forest fires are burning out of
>control.  Imagine! 

I'm sure anyone who lives in California etc...won't have to stretch
their imaginations very far at all on this one.

> I moved here from BC because I was burning to
>death there!   I could hardly wait to move to this cold province and
>here we are, having all these horrible fires in the middle of the icy
>cold winter!!!!! 

You know what they say....."You can run, but you can't hide".  Ask
folks in the Mississippi valley region about moving away from the
recognized flood plane to a *safer* area.

>Because the weather's been freezing, people have  put their hoses in
>the garages and allowed them to ice up. Their hoses are now frozen so
>they can't use them.

Uh, I am surprise that people are that, uninformed.  You live in an
area that is known for it's cold, and they are not draining  their
hoses before they freeze?

>
>The trees are confused.  They have lost their leaves but are still
>green.  The evergreens are stooping over, thinning out, losing their
>needles, and gasping and pleading for  water.  Everyone's grass is
>dead.  This isn't "winter" dead folks -- this is dead, dead!   

Wait and see.  This type of "dead" happens in Illinois quite often.
You will probably be surprised next spring.

>That's
>why it's burning.  Can't anyone realize that?  Trees and grass can't
>live for  weeks without water anymore than we can -- not unless
>they're dormant -- but they're not dormant this year!  

It's mother nature.  It happens all the time in the western US.  Fires
also can be beneficial to the area.


>If we're having so many forest fires in this cool province now, what
>will happen in a hot province like BC next year?  Surely the forest
>fires will set a world record next year, having a a major impact on
>the lumber industry.  Hopefully we'll be prepared and equipped to
>handle these things.

This is not a given, any more than it would be to say that if we get a
recod snow fall here this winter, we will certainly be doomed with
floods in the spring.

>
>If thousands of city trees die like our grass, as early as next year
>this could bring on even more threatening weather patterns, chase away
>the birds, and invite the insects to destroy the crops.  So much for
>our 7 years of plenty, and believing we're safe and don't have to have
>any concerns simply because we're Canadians!  

At this point, all I can think of is (a) relax. and (b)what do you
think you can do about it anyway?  You can't change mother natures
given path.


> I wish our politicians
>should be considering next year's changes, instead of changes in 10
>years from now. 


No offense, but do you want to drag politicians into *every single
aspect* of your life?  Sure seems to be.  Besides, politicians can't
agree on anything, much less pass a law to over ride mother nature.
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From: p-craig1@uiuc.edu.nojunkmail (Trish)
Subject: Re: Urgent Issues Far More Serious than Emissions!
Date: 1997/12/16
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