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Re: Hamemade Anti Theft Device Injures Car Mechanic

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From: Ad absurdum per aspera
Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 18:02
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> Even in the United States, the device is likely illegal. Booby-traps
> are always illegal.

Often quite a bit more illegal in the US than manufacturing or
negligently storing a gun, as I (mis)understand it.  The reason, I
believe, is that booby traps  take human judgment out of the loop in a
very important matter (and, as a practical consequencen have a bad
track record for nailing good guys, innocent bystanders, and people
committing some little offense that would  not have justified the use
of deadly force anyway).

Some details about how it was *meant* to be triggered would at least
explain why it was there -- it is received wisdom in the US that
Jo'burg (and perhaps some other parts of South Africa) have a severe
problem with carjacking and similar crimes.  (See also the vehicle
flame thrower from a few years ago.)  Whether that justifies a booby
trap under their laws, I have no idea.

Ditto for the relative likelihood of shooting a carjacker, his
mechanic, or himself with the thing, or where the presumably moving
car ends up after its driver takes a bullet in the belly...

--Joe
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From: Ad absurdum per aspera <jtchew@california.com>
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Subject: Re: Hamemade Anti Theft Device Injures Car Mechanic
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