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3 total messages Started by Piers Lauder Mon, 13 Jul 1992 06:56
costs vs. delays explained
#62
Author: Piers Lauder
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1992 06:56
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ggm@brolga.cc.uq.oz.au (George Michaelson) writes:

 > Dear Piers. please save myself and other sysops a lot of trouble by
 > explaining by example how we do this. The values shown by your automatically
 > generated table do not equate to values present in my commandsfile and I
 > am unwilling to stir the entrails without a better understanding of whats
 > required.
 > 
 > Take
 > 	bunyip<->qdpii as an instance.
 > 
 > you state:
 > 
 > unequal link costs:
 >         bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au to qdpii.comp.qdpi.oz.au => 0
 >         qdpii.comp.qdpi.oz.au to bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au => 1
 > 
 > I have this in commandsfile:
 > 
 > delay           bunyip.D=cc.O=uq.oz.au,
 >                         N=stallion.D=sw.O=stallion.oz.au        86400
 > delay           N=stallion.D=sw.O=stallion.oz.au,
 >                         bunyip.D=cc.O=uq.oz.au          86400
 > 
 > 
 > Now tell me what I should have.

First thing to do is read the relevant section of "netstate(8)" :-)

You will notice that "delay" and "cost" are different commands.  You
should only set costs on links _from_ your site to a link, (that is,
your site only `owns' the cost parameter in the outbound directions),
conversely, you should only set delays from a link _to_ your site.

Of course you _can_ set both directions, but that will only affect your
local routing, will not be believed by other sites, and netstate will warn
you the first time you try it.  (Because it may cause routing loops
between you and another site who believes what your link tells it about
the parameters that it `owns'.)

So, to change the "cost" inequality above, should you feel it to be
incorrect, "bunyip" can use the command:
	cost	N=bunyip.D=cc.O=uq.P=oz.C=au,
		N=qdpii.D=comp.O=qdpi.P=oz.C=au
		1
OR, "qdpii" can use:
	cost	N=qdpii.D=comp.O=qdpi.P=oz.C=au,
		N=bunyip.D=cc.O=uq.P=oz.C=au
		0
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Re: costs vs. delays explained
#59
Author: George Michaelson
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1992 11:26
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(1) I have no instances of the word "cost" in my commandsfile and
    much though I admire my downstream feeds, I doubt if they read
    the manuals, and will have added them either. Thus, I have to beg
    some guidance on how instances of cost-values can creep into my
    link state.

(2) netmap -Y does reveal information in [] appended after link details
    as per manual. It doesnt append in the form [<number>(C|D)] as shown
    in the manual. If you'd asked me 30 seconds ago what the difference
    between delay and cost was based on what netmap -Y tells you, I'd have
    been marginally less able to say.

As it stands, the best I can say is...

	huh?

-George
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Re: costs vs. delays explained
#63
Author: David J. Hughes
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1992 01:52
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piers@basser.cs.su.oz.au (Piers Lauder) writes:

>You will notice that "delay" and "cost" are different commands.  You
>should only set costs on links _from_ your site to a link, (that is,
>your site only `owns' the cost parameter in the outbound directions),
>conversely, you should only set delays from a link _to_ your site.


Ah yes, now it's as clear as mud....

Is there some subliminal relation between cost and delay parameters?
You quote "cost" figures between lance and ptcburp and also lance and
bunyip yet they have no costs set on the links.  The figures do,
though, closely resemble the delay settings.

One more time with feeling, please Piers.



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