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Article #351Re: Excess petrol prices petition
From: Tony Sippl
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 00:00
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 00:00
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In article gaa@mailhub.scitec.com.au, ramsesy@rd.scitec.com.au (Ramses Youhana) writes: >Lori and Daniel Bowen (lbowen@ariel.ucs.unimelb.EDU.AU) wrote: >> jeremiah@srm.blamac.com.au (Warwick Rendell) writes: >> >In article <4fpm7p$ema@preeda.internex.net.au>, maddison@connexus.apana.org.au <snip> >> So what's the problem? >> Lower fuel prices means more people drive, means more pollution. Subsidies >> for roads and their associated costs (policing, medical, pollution, etc >> etc) are far too low anyway. > >That's not true. The cost of petrol is more now than it was a few years ago, yet >more people drive cars now than they did back then. > >The problem is that too many people are reliant on cars for their main means of >transport, whether it be due to a lack of public transport to/from where >they are going, or they don't like public transport or that public transport >may be inconvenient for them or they may feel that they lose their freedom >without their car. For me it is cheaper, quicker and more convenient to use my >car to get to/from work. Putting up the cost of petrol by a few cents a litre >will have no effect on changing their minds (or mine for that matter). > I agree. And what's more, letting aside the issue of taxes on fuel, there has to be a better system of public transport in the cities! And it must be free to attract as many people as possible, yes havyly subsidised. Take just a small part of the fuel tax revenue and you get a super public transport. I drive 10,000 km/y just to commute to work and would much rather use public transport. But, I would waste ALMOST 3 HOURS A DAY compared to 40 minutes. The planners in Perth should be made responsible for a PT system that works only for a small minority. If you have to cross the city north/south they even expect you to walk for 10 minutes to connect between train and bus! Thats not good enough. If I produce such a pathetic result at work I most likely lose my job..... >The truth of the matter is that the government uses the environment issue as >a political tool to gain political power. The extra money they get from the >petrol taxes should go into improving public transport (as well as the roads), >and maybe then more people will start using public transport. > >I would also be happier if the police start doing random pollution checks on cars >(especially the ones blowing out heaps of smoke) and getting them off the road, in >order to reduce the overall amount of pollution. Heavy fines here may also encourage >those people with cars that blow lots of smoke to get their cars fixed. > >Ramses. >
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f9008,ffeb5961d875e901 X-Google-Attributes: gidf9008,public X-Google-Thread: 10e4c9,ffeb5961d875e901 X-Google-Attributes: gid10e4c9,public X-Google-Thread: 108659,ffeb5961d875e901 X-Google-Attributes: gid108659,public X-Google-Thread: 1153d9,ffeb5961d875e901 X-Google-Attributes: gid1153d9,public X-Google-Thread: 103407,ffeb5961d875e901 X-Google-Attributes: gid103407,public X-Google-Thread: 101ee4,ffeb5961d875e901 X-Google-Attributes: gid101ee4,public X-Google-Thread: f8259,ffeb5961d875e901 X-Google-Attributes: gidf8259,public X-Google-Thread: 108c83,ffeb5961d875e901 X-Google-Attributes: gid108c83,public From: tonys@atri.curtin.edu.au (Tony Sippl) Subject: Re: Excess petrol prices petition Date: 1996/02/15 Message-ID: <4fu4dg$15h@info.curtin.edu.au> X-Deja-AN: 139422516 distribution: world references: <4fr8bh$gaa@mailhub.scitec.com.au> organization: Australian Telecommunication Research Institute reply-to: tonys@atri.curtin.edu.au newsgroups: aus.archives,aus.aviation,aus.cars,aus.books,aus.computers,aus.culture.china,aus.education,aus.electronics,aus.enviroment.misc,aus.foodtech,aus.games.bridge,aus.gardens,aus.general,aus.invest,aus.legal,aus.motorcycles,aus.personals,aus.radio.broadcast,aus.rail,aus.sport,aus.sport.motor,aus.students,aus.tv