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In <1992Jun30.104530.5485@metapro.DIALix.oz.au> bernie@metapro.DIALix.oz.au (Bernd Felsche) writes:

>In <pjw.709733022@lobo> pjw@lobo.canberra.edu.au (Peter Wishart) writes:

>>In <1992Jun27.090742.20799@metapro.DIALix.oz.au>
>>   bernie@metapro.DIALix.oz.au (Bernd Felsche) writes:

>>                     .....  Perth is not currently a chapter, but an
>>affiliated organisation.

>Actually, I understood that WAUG was a chapter, following a
>petition of some time back. Maybe it's an affiliate instead.
>As I understand it, if WAUG is an affiliate, then there must
>have been a vote to accept it as such.

WAUG is a chapter under the current rules. It is likely that it cannot be
a chapter under any (reasonable) new chapter rules. WAUG's impending
incorporation will make it a legal entity in it's own right which will make it
impossible for WAUG to be a chapter of AUUG.

Our current relationship to AUUG is really more one of an affiliate than a
chapter. Our 'chapterhood' hasn't been an issue since we have never called on
AUUG for financial assistance. Our AUUG role has been to represent 
AUUG-interests in Perth and to assist in the organisation and running of AUUG
events (such as the summer conference). The majority of our members *aren't* 
AUUG members (which doesn't matter until/if we ask AUUG for funds).

The real reason that we are more like an affiliate than a chapter is that we
have (or will have) a legal existance in our own right and that existance has
no formal responsibility to AUUG.

This isn't news to anyone, particularly not anyone in WAUG. I have had 
reservations about the long term viability of WAUG's standing  as an AUUG
chapter. I have made them clear to AUUG and WAUG committees and WAUG members on 
numerous occasions.

Unfortunately, I think much of Bernie's position on chapters (as stated in 
previous postings) assumes that AUUG chapters are like WAUG and that we can
go on being an AUUG chapter and that AUUG chapters can go on being like
WAUG (somehow seperate and autonomous while still being part of the whole
warm fuzzy feeling). I don't think this is viable.

I promise, a longer answer will follow (RSN:-)

glenn
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