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Article #273Re: AUUGN ridiculously late again
From: Andrew McRae
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1992 00:53
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1992 00:53
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From article <janet.700133412@dunnart>, by janet@cs.uwa.oz.au (Janet Jackson): > The members of AUUG who don't get promised articles in on time should consider > themselves criticised also. I know it's hard, but you can do it if you try. > Janet Jackson As one those guilty parties who have probably held up an AUUGN because of not getting an article in on time, I can perhaps pour a little oil on the waters here (as long as it doesn't catch fire). *I* accept the valid criticism, but please don't flame the editor. It is a thankless job that requires dedication, perserverance, and a thick hide. AUUGN (and its poor editor) are victims of deadlines not being met, and in spite of much exhortation and encouragement, there is still a dearth of good locally-written technical papers for AUUGN. One reason is that it takes effort and time to write an article, and in these recession days some employers can't see the return for their people writing newletter articles. It is also disappointing to see most articles are coming from commercial organisations - where are the University articles on operating system research? Where are the papers from the CSIRO? Where are the people talking about Open Systems in government? These people may be more interested in other (possibly overseas) organisations, where there is a wider audience and a larger technical readership. Why is AUUGN having problems getting articles? It may have something to do with changes in AUUG (a continuing desire to make AUUG palatable to `commercial Open Systems' people), and the possibly shrinking technical audience it is addressing, and the fact that it is becoming a vehicle for more AUUG announcements/reports (not a bad thing) and reprints from other affiliated organisations (such as standards updates etc. - again, *possibly* not a bad thing). *soapbox ON* IMHO the problems with AUUGN are symptomatic of how the Open System world has changed in the last few years; I think AUUG worked because of the Unix community here was fairly isolated, and was small and enthusiastic enough to be self-sustaining (this is probably why WAUG is fairly dynamic, and outshines the other states in terms of activities, benefits etc). I don't know if this is the case any more in the general Australian Unix community. One has only to look at the distressing way vendors and commercial `our system is more open than theirs' presentations dominated the last AUUG conference to realise that priorities have changed and the technical (i.e interesting) nature of the conference was greatly diminished. I have come to the conclusion that the old days of AUUG are dead and buried, and from now on things are going to be different. I think mainly due to the much better network connectivity we have with overseas, there seems to be a turning away from local collaboration, and much more interest in interaction with people internationally. What should be done then? I see a great hope in the state conferences - these seem to be in the old spirit of AUUG conferences, no sales pitches, strong techo stuff etc. Should this herald changes in the way AUUG operates? I am not convinced that AUUG should be presenting itself to the commercial world as the body for representing all Open Systems concerns. If this occurs, AUUG may well become an hollow shell, echoing with the empty mantras of the vendors as they chant their Open Systems gospel, deserted by the people who formed the original foundations. As someone from the committee said at the AGM, `If we don't do it, then someone else will'. As far as I am concerned, let someone else do it, because I am not interested in where they are going. Andrew McRae (andrew@megadata.mega.oz.au) - My views only - (I will also mail this to the AUUG exec.)
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 10db45,30138a09708b22dd X-Google-Attributes: gid10db45,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1992-03-09 19:16:51 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!spool.mu.edu!munnari.oz.au!metro!dmssyd.syd.dms.CSIRO.AU!megadata!andrew From: andrew@megadata.mega.oz.au (Andrew McRae) Newsgroups: aus.auug Subject: Re: AUUGN ridiculously late again Message-ID: <1992Mar10.005300.26091@megadata.uucp> Date: 10 Mar 92 00:53:00 GMT Article-I.D.: megadata.1992Mar10.005300.26091 References: <janet.700133412@dunnart> Sender: news@megadata.uucp Distribution: aus Organization: Megadata P/L, North Ryde, Sydney, Aust. Lines: 71 Originator: andrew@tegen