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In article <1992Oct29.004133.9462@DIALix.oz.au> abcc@DIALix.oz.au (Adrian Booth Computing Consultants) writes:
>My question stems from an interesting meeting I had yesterday. I had a 
>meeting with <someone> trying to sell me <something> (always a bad way to
>start a meeting). Anyway, he started by demonstrating his UNIX background.
>A summary of his spiel is:
>
>	- He personally knows Bill Joy
>	- In fact, when Bill Joy & Co. wanted to add VM capabilities to
>		System 7, Bill came out to Oz
>	- Bill visited UTS and RMIT
>	- The people at RMIT (including this <someone>) - who had "worked out 
>		the VM algorithms but not quite implemented them yet" - 
>		told Bill Joy how to add VM to System 7
>	- Bill Joy then returned to UCB, added VM using the info he got from
>		RMIT, and "became God"
>	- So we can all thank the people at RMIT for BSD UNIX, and Bill Joy
>		can thank RMIT for making him what he is today
>
>Can any of you knowledgeable types comment on the accuracy of the above?

This is clearly bullshit, as everyone knows Bill Joy never listens to
anyone...

Seriously, to the best of my knowledge, Bill didn't come to Australia till
some time in the early eighties after Sun was formed, and BSD was
already up to 4.1C and had at least rudimentary VM features. Any such visit
would have had to have been in the late seventies, when wnj was still a poor
Uni student. Hardly a definitive answer though.
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In <1992Oct29.004133.9462@DIALix.oz.au> abcc@DIALix.oz.au (Adrian Booth Computing Consultants) writes:

[Bill Joy achieves god status through RMIT story deprecated]

>Can any of you knowledgeable types comment on the accuracy of the above?

Doesn't sound like it to me. About the only visit of wnj to Australia
that I can recall from that time period was to an AUUG conference I
organised at Sydney University, and he was with Sun by then. He'd never
been to Australia before, as he was delayed by a lack of an Australian
visa (or a passport?). Really screwed up my speaker slots.

Finally, people who subscribe to the "wnj is god" theory are a bit
suspect anyway. If you wanted to put that mantle onto anyone, you
could perhaps select some more worthy targets, especially ones whose
PR machine is not so virulent.

Chris - keeper of the sacred scrolls.
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In <chris.720405254@suite.sw.oz.au> chris@suite.sw.oz.au (Chris Maltby) writes:

>In <1992Oct29.004133.9462@DIALix.oz.au> abcc@DIALix.oz.au (Adrian Booth Computing Consultants) writes:

>[Bill Joy achieves god status through RMIT story deprecated]

>Finally, people who subscribe to the "wnj is god" theory are a bit
>suspect anyway. If you wanted to put that mantle onto anyone, you
>could perhaps select some more worthy targets, especially ones whose
>PR machine is not so virulent.

OK Chris, name names. Is there anyone you'd elevate to deity status,
or is your computing pantheon sitting gathering dust on the chairs?

>Chris - keeper of the sacred scrolls.

So _that's_ what that pile of papers sitting on the floor next to
your desk is!
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In article <chris.720405254@suite.sw.oz.au>,
    chris@suite.sw.oz.au (Chris Maltby) writes:

| Finally, people who subscribe to the "wnj is god" theory are a bit
| suspect anyway. If you wanted to put that mantle onto anyone, you
| could perhaps select some more worthy targets, especially ones whose
| PR machine is not so virulent.

Surely, our own beloved "kre" would befit that status?

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In article <9230315.12625@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU>, ggr@minyip.acci.com.au (Greg Rose) writes:
> 
> Seriously, to the best of my knowledge, Bill didn't come to Australia till
> some time in the early eighties after Sun was formed,

That's how I remember it too.  I remember seeing him around Basser at that time.


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