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Article #522Re: what the? we r allowed mobile phones on planes u say?
From: Jeremy Quirke
Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 12:29
Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 12:29
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"Sylvia Else" <sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote in message news:429fc45b$0$5180$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au... > > > Jeremy Quirke wrote: > >> It's not like your plane is going to fall out of the sky. You don't >> seriously believe people don't accidentally leave their phones on anyway >> in aircraft EVERY SINGLE DAY, and I haven't had any Boeings in my >> backyard recently. > > No - it never was really about safety, it's because the mobile phone > networks can't cope with rapidly moving phones in line-of-sight of > hundreds of phone towers at the same time. > > Sylvia. You're completely mistaken. I can see no technical reason in GSM (what the majority of phones in Australia use) why that would happen. Firstly, in order to initiate activity on the network, the phone must move between location areas, which are comprised of hundreds of BTS (base stations). Only then does this trigger Location Update. Furthermore, the MS needs to be able to synchronize quickly to the BTS' BCCH in an area before it can even consider a LA (or even know what LA it is in, since it must decode the appropriate SYSTEM INFORMATION message). Synchronization (network search times) are quite slow on GSM. Next, even if the MS were to attempt a location update, this would likely fail very quickly - the network would probably not hear the CHANNEL REQUEST bursts or timing advance issues would mean the connection attempt would soon fail. -JQ
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X-Google-Thread: fb718,58cffecdd7680a38 X-Google-Thread: 1153d9,a09708704ee6dfae X-Google-Attributes: gidfb718,gid1153d9,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!g2news1.google.com!news3.google.com!news.glorb.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed.iinet.net.au!newsfeed.iinet.net.au!per-qv1-newsstorage1.iinet.net.au!per-qv1-newsstorage1.iinet.net.au!per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au!not-for-mail From: "Jeremy Quirke" <jqr@noausmobilespam.com> Newsgroups: aus.comms.mobile,aus.aviation References: <1117456670.450964.135250@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <429ed9e8$0$265$61c65585@uq-127creek-reader-03.brisbane.pipenetworks.com.au> <429ee281$0$17568$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au> <429fc45b$0$5180$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> Subject: Re: what the? we r allowed mobile phones on planes u say? Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 22:29:18 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Response X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Lines: 34 Message-ID: <42a04d24$0$8343$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.166.233.22 X-Trace: 1117801765 per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au 8343 203.166.233.22