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"Trembath" <danielt@ihug.com.au> wrote in message
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> Just quick message to see what everyones opinon is:
>
> What do you feel is the best IDE for doing personal Java projects (Small
> through to large sized).

For personal use, you just can't beat notepad. You can indent with the tab
key - what could be simpler? And you don't have some app hiding your code
away in weird directories or addiing stuff you didn't want.

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I think Kawa is one of the better IDEs, like notepad it also doesn't add
stuff to your code or hide it in diffrent directorys.

However unlike notpad you can save files as '.java', whereas notepad likes
to save stuff as '.java.txt'.

Also you don't have to have another dos box up to actually compile and run
your program.

you can find a demo for it at www.tek-tools.com

PS, wouldn't tabs stuff up the shape of your code when viewed in other
programs?

"Paul Murray" <pmurray@nospam.bigpond.com> wrote in message
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> "Trembath" <danielt@ihug.com.au> wrote in message
> news:danielt-52E656.05143916072000@news.mel.ihug.com.au...
> > Just quick message to see what everyones opinon is:
> >
> > What do you feel is the best IDE for doing personal Java projects (Small
> > through to large sized).
>
> For personal use, you just can't beat notepad. You can indent with the tab
> key - what could be simpler? And you don't have some app hiding your code
> away in weird directories or addiing stuff you didn't want.
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> Repent! Quit your job! Slack off!
> http://www.users.bigpond.com/pmurray/index-2.html
> ICQ: 26066755
>
>

Yer VAJ is great I love it!!!!

I looked at Visual Cafe, JBuilder (A dog), Kawa pretty simple but good. All
are good packages but expect you to use a file based system that is really
out
dated with Java. Visual Age for Javas repository based programming is much
better as it bases your code on packages and allows versioning and team
management. sure you can do this with the other but it means you have to use
your own CVS.

Also to Quin I downloaded Deja and had a play. It just demonstrates how
small
a download needs to be to have a perfectly functioning IDE. Well done! Its
simple
but it works and works well. I need to stick with VAJ until you release your
EJB environment :-).


Alan

ps. I don't work for IBM! I just appreciate a breath of fresh air!

"John Beechen" <infoau@sdcsolutions.com.au> wrote in message
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> Has anyone used VisualAge for Java (IBM)?  Im just wondering if people
> prefer the simpler editors/IDE's to a more full blown product such as
> VisualAge.
>
> If anyone's looking for work in VisualAge/Websphere please let me know -
Ive
> got lots of work to do, and not enough people to do it!!
>
> Thanks
> John Beechen
> infoau@sdcsolutions.com.au
>
> Trembath <danielt@ihug.com.au> wrote in message
> news:danielt-52E656.05143916072000@news.mel.ihug.com.au...
> > Just quick message to see what everyones opinon is:
> >
> > What do you feel is the best IDE for doing personal Java projects (Small
> > through to large sized).
> >
> > Ive used Visual Caf� 2 but wasn't overly impressed, but ive not used the
> > newer ones.
> >
> > Ive used Visual Age for Smalltalk, which i very much enjoyed, but i've
> > not used the java version. Its focus on a multi user environment was
> > anoying at times.
> >
> >
> > So what do you think is the best?
> >
> > Daniel
>
>