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Re: ubuntu on the net

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From: Will Kemp
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 06:24
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Zebee Johnstone wrote:
> In aus.computers.linux on Mon, 14 Jul 2008 01:15:56 +1000
> Bron Gondwana <brong@brong.net> wrote:
>> It's a fecking cow due to the fact that network manager was written by
>> ethernet/wireless bigots who wouldn't know a PPP session if it did the
>> nasty with their dog.
> 
> This is an Ubuntu special I take it?

Nah, NetworkManager is a gnome thing. It's what i've used to control 
networking for ages. It's had its buggy moments, but generally it's 
really good. It automatically connects you to wireless networks you've 
been connected to previously and if you plug in an ethernet cable, it 
detects that and kills the wireless and switches over to ethernet. That 
behaviour can be a bit annoying - as, sometimes, i want both.

But it doesn't do serial modems - apart from anything else, there's no 
way to detect when the phone line's connected and dial-up automatically. 
Of course, you don't want your computer dialling automatically like 
that, anyway.

Fedora also includes the old standard network control stuff - so you can 
kill NetworkManager and use that for modem connections.

> I tried Ubuntu once.  I think I lasted about a day before I decided
> that it made things way too hard.

I had a look at ubuntu myself, not long ago. I wasn't very impressed. 
It's pretty much all the same stuff as fedora, etc, but there are a few 
irritating "improvements".

However, ubuntu is by far the most hyped of the linux distributions - 
undoubtedly cos the guy who owns it has got vast amounts of money to 
spend on hyping it up. I can't help wondering where it's going though, 
and what his real motivation is. As it takes over a large share of newly 
converted linux users, is it going to turn into another windows?

Perhaps i just don't know enough about ubuntu - but i'm a bit sus on it!



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