🚀 go-pugleaf

In aus.computers.linux, on 15 Jul 2008 22:17:44 GMT
Zebee Johnstone <zebeej@gmail.com> wrote:
>  In aus.computers.linux on Mon, 14 Jul 2008 01:15:56 +1000
>  Bron Gondwana <brong@brong.net> wrote:
> >
> > It's a fecking cow due to the fact that network manager was written by
> > ethernet/wireless bigots who wouldn't know a PPP session if it did the
> > nasty with their dog.
> 
>  This is an Ubuntu special I take it?

No, indeed not.  It's the wave of the future.  Everybloodything talks to
it these days.

http://www.gnome.org/projects/NetworkManager
http://en.opensuse.org/Projects/KNetworkManager

It's pretty good at what it does - the problem is feature incompleteness
and fail-broken-ness.  0.7 is supposedly a whole lot better.
 
> > Actually, it won't kill you to use Gnome-PPP or Kppp or something.  Just
> > be prepared for Network Manager to cause your Firefoxes and your Pidgins
> > and other things that integrate a bit too closely with its magic to
> > believe that you're offline, and act accordingly.
> >
> 
>  An Ubuntu special that messes with things it has no right to mess
>  with?
> 
>  I tried Ubuntu once.  I think I lasted about a day before I decided
>  that it made things way too hard.
> 
>  I just wanted to compile something.  Just finding the libraries I
>  needed took hours.  
> 
>  Heaps of people bash RedHat/Fedora, and I usually figure I like it
>  because I am used to it as I've been using it since the choices were
>  that or Slack and I wanted a change from Slack.  But the more I hear
>  about Ubuntu the more I think that maybe it's not just that...

Mostly it's what you know.  I'm a Debian admin since 2000, was Redhat
before then.  Mostly I preferred Debian when I switched, which is why
I've moved to Ubuntu, because it's Debian based.  There are some
things about it that annoy me, but I haven't had any difficulty finding
dev libraries.  Sure they're differently named than Redhat, because
the Debian family use different names.

Bron.