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Article #375Re: Software groups warn of FTA dangers
From: Benny Cemoli
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2004 00:56
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2004 00:56
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Sylvia Else wrote: > > > Benny Cemoli wrote: > >> From the government's own summation of the AUSFTA; >> >> "Sony has also been active in the US, using DMCA litigation or the >> threat of it to stop software developers allowing Sony games to be >> played on ordinary PCs, and likewise for other games to be played on >> Sony Playstations.(52) Restrictions on encryption have the immediate >> effect of denying a lot of the �fair use� exemptions that normally >> apply under copyright legislation" > > > I wish people would post case citations rather than annecdotes. And I wish people wouldn't shill for greedy corporates. Looks like we're both fresh out of luck... Read the origin. It's a quote from one of the reports commissioned by the government to evaluate the AUSFTA. > > I did find http://www.estoel.com/resources/eb_cases.shtm which seems to > show that Sony ultimately lost this case, and presumably wouldn't persue > a similar case against someone doing the same thing. Sony now own the rights to the emulation software. I suspect you're right that they wouldn't pursue a case against themselves. I doubt whether a small developer in competition with them would be so fortunate. > > In any case, I'm far from clear why one should expect to buy a Sony > Playstation game and then be morally entitled to play it on other hardware. If I buy a nail I believe I have the right to hit it with whatever hammer I chose. Or with any other hardware in my toolkit for that matter. It's MY nail. > >> >> "Whatever the legal issues involved, it is clear that at least some of >> the industry practices are designed more to maximise profits than >> prevent piracy." >> >> "There have been other overseas examples where the MDCA approach has >> had the effect of stifling innovation and/or competition. For example, >> an adaptation that allowed users of Apple Macintosh computers to work >> with external DVD recorders meant that users did not need to buy a new >> Apple Macintosh in order to use a DVD recorder. Apple claimed that >> this was a violation of the MDCA and stopped the sale of the upgrade." > > > The creator of the upgrade was an Apple dealer, who caved in immediately > to avoid compromising their relationship with Apple. The merits of the > case were never examined. > > Yes, if you buckle as soon as someone mentions DMCA, then you give power > to others, but that's not really a problem with the legislation. <Sarcasm> Well, if you'd like to point out whose problem it really is, we'll have a go at them then. </Sarcasm> Of course it's a problem with the legislation. If a law makes it unclear what rights and responsibilities exist within its ambit then it's a poorly written, ill considered piece of legislation. > > Sylvia. >
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