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Article #397Re: Software groups warn of FTA dangers
From: Rod Speed
Date: Sat, 07 Aug 2004 22:12
Date: Sat, 07 Aug 2004 22:12
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"_" <_@_._> wrote in message news:4114b124$0$29782$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au... > Rod Speed wrote >>>>> said the effects would be felt by all developers, not >>>>> merely those who worked with open source software. >>>> Complete and utter pack of lies. >>> Rod you are completely wrong. >> We'll see... > Rod it affects us now, regardless of the FTA changes. SO THIS FOOLS CLAIMS ABOUT ANY EFFECT OF THE FTA IS CLEARLY JUST PLAIN WRONG, FUCKWIT. That entirely separate question of the downsides of CURRENT patent law wasnt even being discussed in that mindless hyperventilation ABOUT THE CONSEQUENCES OF THE FTA, fuckwit. > The guy's statement is correct. Crap. Pity about his WOULD BE claim, fuckwit. > Developers are affected by s/w patents. Simple. That wasnt even being discussed, fuckwit. > Given that many developers market their s/w to places where > such patents are in place and can be enforced it affects us. That wasnt even being discussed, fuckwit. WHAT WAS BEING DISCUSSED WAS THE STUPID PIG IGNORANT CLAIM ABOUT THE CONSEQUENCES OF THE FTA ON SOFTWARE DEVELOPERS. HE HASNT EVEN ESTABLISHED THAT THERE WILL BE ANY EFFECT WHATEVER AS A RESULT OF THE FTA. If anything it has become clear that we are quite likely to be TIGHTENING OUR PATENT LAW TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE WORST ABUSE OF PATENT LAW. >>> Of course it affects all developers. >> Complete and utter pack of lies. > Come on, you're smarter than that. What a terminal fuckwit you have always been. YOU AND HE HAVENT ESTABLISHED THAT THE FTA WILL HAVE ANY EFFECT AT ALL ON OUR PATENT LAW. IF ANYTHING WE ARE LIKELY TO TIGHTEN OUR PATENT LAW TO MAKE FLAGRANT ABUSE OF PATENTS HARDER, BASICALLY TO GET THE FTA THRU THE SENATE. >>>>> He said the wording in the FTA suggested Australia's >>>>> software patents law and US laws would be harmonised. >>>> Complete and utter pack of lies. It does nothing of the sort. >>> FTA section 17.9.14 >>> Each Party shall endeavour to reduce differences in law and practice >>> between their respective systems, including in respect of >>> differences in determining the rights to an invention, the prior art >>> effect of applications for patents, and the division of an >>> application containing multiple inventions. In addition, each Party >>> shall endeavour to participate in international patent harmonisation >>> efforts, including the WIPO fora addressing reform and development >>> of the international patent system. >> Soorree, nothing like what that fuckwit claimed. > I wasn't referring to his claims but yours. Even you should be able to bullshit your way out of your predicament better than that pathetic effort. I JUST said that HIS claim was a complete and pack of lies, SO I MADE NO CLAIM. >>> but as mentioned we are to minimise any differences >> Just waffle, fuckwit. > To quote yourself, we'll see. Crap, we've ALREADY seen that if anything we are likely to see our patent law TIGHTENED TO MAKE IT HARDER TO RORT THE PATENT LAW, IN A EFFORT TO GET THE FTA THRU THE SENATE. >>> So while not a great deal there will be some change. >> Nope. And nothing like that fool claimed. > I agree it won't be anything like the alarmists > say but we'll likely get some change. Sure, we may well see our patent law tightened to make it harder to rort the patent system, to get the FTA thru the senate. The exact opposite of what that mindless hyperventilating fool claimed. > Anyway I'm part of the crowd that will benefit so what do I care? Pretty stupid mentality. >>>>> He said huge software houses had the resources to obtain patents. >>>> And most dont bother, even in the US system, fool. >>> Rubbish. You obviously don't follow it closely enough. >> Even you should be able to bullshit your way out of >> your predicament better than that puerile shit, child. > Just look at the US PTO grants. You'll be able to find them. > Check the "assignee" field. Do some counting. Go back about > ten years and compare the numbers. The s/w patent game is > wide open and many know how to play it. All completely and utterly irrelevant to the stupid pig ignorant claim that MOST 'huge software houses' BOTHER with patents. >>> Quote (again from the FTA guide mentioned above) >>> in reference to section 17.4.7 of the FTA, >>> "Implementation of this Article will require legislative change. >>> The nature and extent of those changes need to be carefully >>> explored. Article 17.12 provides that Australia has a two year >>> period from the date of entry into force of the Agreement to >>> implement its obligations under this provision." >> We've ALREADY done our own, fuckwit. > I've read it. >> And no FTA gets to force particular legislation here anyway. > Can you read? It doesnt say that, fuckwit.
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