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Article #55025Re: Suggestions please - Office for Linux
From: Ted Sikora
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 00:00
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 00:00
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David Goh wrote:
>
> In aus.computers.linux, on Mon, 18 Aug 1997 21:02:00 GMT
> Brian Mueller <mulder78@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >Wally Barnes wrote:
> >>Simply put, Linux doesn't suffer from Bill Gates and his company. It suffers
> >>from people who find it better to complain about the lack of support/development
> >>,when they should get up off their tails and do it themselves.
> >What about people who are not programmers? SOL, huh?
> >(sol = shit out of luck)
>
> To be quite brutally honest? Yes.
>
> As someone else said also... The linux kernel is a by programmers for
> programmers thing. If you have a problem with a driver that doesn't exist,
> then write one. If you find one that's buggy, then poke the guy
> that wrote it, or write a patch.
>
> The only reason I haven't done either, is that I carefully researched what
> hardware *was* already supported when I put together my PC.
>
> *shrug* Linux (the kernel) is *not* "unix for dummies".
>
> That said... I happen to believe Linux *distributions* can
> be "unix for dummies". I see no reason for prevent distribution makers
> from making nice package management tools, nice upgrade mechanisms, nice
> system administration tools, and putting them all together in a package,
> together with the latest stable Linux kernel they can find, and voila, a
> "unix for dummies" system.
>
> Yggdrasil does this, and to an extent, so does RedHat. Slackware
> doesn't... I'm not sure about debian, not having used it myself.
>
> But, the basic point is:
>
> The Linux *kernel* is a rather different kettle of fish to the Linux
> *distribution*.
>
> If you have a problem with a lack of support for something in the Linux
> kernel, then fix it yourself, or collaborate with some people who are
> already doing things to fix it, or pay someone to write a driver for you.
>
> The thing is *copyleft*ed. This means that the released kernel code is all
> free. Ergo, noone gets paid for it. People write parts of it out of the
> goodness of their own hearts. Hence, noone has a right to criticise anybody
> for things that are not supported, because hey... Noone cares enough to
> write the driver. Tough. Those that *have* written stuff deserve thanks,
> not damnation for "not doing enough".
>
> Later,
>
> David
>
> --
> Unico Computer Systems Pty Ltd
> David Goh Software Engineer
> david@unico.com.au (03) 9866 5688
Amen!
--
Best Regards,
Ted Sikora
tsikora@tiac.net
http://tsikora.tiac.net
"Free Software: Contribute nothing, expect nothing."
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: faa64,42462d786437a1a1 X-Google-Attributes: gidfaa64,public X-Google-Thread: f4bda,42462d786437a1a1 X-Google-Attributes: gidf4bda,public X-Google-Thread: 102983,42462d786437a1a1 X-Google-Attributes: gid102983,public X-Google-Thread: fcfb9,42462d786437a1a1 X-Google-Attributes: gidfcfb9,public From: Ted Sikora <tsikora@tiac.net> Subject: Re: Suggestions please - Office for Linux Date: 1997/08/19 Message-ID: <33F92EF7.1320@tiac.net> X-Deja-AN: 267841299 References: <rgw-ya023080002907971402460001@newshost.unimelb.edu.au> <33EAC7FE.8D8D2C2C@syd.net.au> <slrn5uts20.ta3.mjr@laulujoutsen.pc.helsinki.fi> <4u7mdlwgn3.fsf@schroedinger.adelaide.maptek.com.au> <33f79556.22571665@nntp.ix.netcom.com> <5t8d26$1gv$1@gail.ripco.com> <5t9n8f$5d$1@jake.esu.edu> <33f8b845.10607660@nntp.ix.netcom.com> <5tb1ct$e6b@padre.unico.com.au> Reply-To: tsikora@tiac.net Organization: Jtl Development Newsgroups: aus.computers.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.x