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Article #56192Re: linux/unix?
From: Jason Stokes
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 00:00
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 00:00
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On Thu, 27 Mar 1997 01:07:44 +0800, Dimitri Maziuk <dima@eris.dev.null> wrote: >> : democratic, we have to start looking at ergonomic and useability issues. > >Well, that one is about as old as the question whether there is God >on Mars. Plenty of peole will tell you that command line interface >is far more ergonomic and usable than point-and-wait. Alas, what is ergonomic is infinitely mutable and dependant on the user and the situation. But I have a good idea of what is *not* ergonomic. Here are some examples: Creating a graphical environment, and then requiring that graphical environment be manipulated by editing a hopelessly confusing set of "X-resource" files is *not* ergonomic. Configuring each application with a set of dot-files, each of which has its own special syntax and a huge litany of options is *not* ergonomic. Having dozens of different text-editors, each having their own unique keyboard short-cuts to do the same things is *not* ergonomic. Vi and Elvis are never ergonomic. Commands that give no indication of their activity, or any information on successful completion (ie rm *) are *not* ergonomic. Commands that don't have safety checks for particularly dangerous commands are *not* ergonomic (ie rm -rf .*) >BTW, what's your definition of "truly democratic"? I thought linux >was pretty democratic, if "demos" refers to linux community. >(Excuse my Greek. I'm not being serious, if you haven't noticed :) Without being too serious, the definition of "democratic" I'm using is something like: "accessible to a user who's reasonably intelligent, but who doesn't wish to waste endless amounts of time trying to understand the syntactical gibberish of a sendmail configuration file. Someone who is happy to learn appropriate skills, but doesn't want to waste time in endless skill duplication. Someone who has the entirely reasonable expectation that most of their interaction with their computer will be graphical, not text-based. Someone like the typical Windows user." -- Jason Stokes: j.stokes@bohm.anu.edu.au Ph: +61 (06) 291 93 84
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 102983,f83debb669e3fb22 X-Google-Attributes: gid102983,public From: j.stokes@bohm.anu.edu.au (Jason Stokes) Subject: Re: linux/unix? Date: 1997/03/28 Message-ID: <5hggbp$l1t$3@clarion.carno.net.au> X-Deja-AN: 229008692 References: <33278881.567B@scu.edu.au> <slrn5iffk6.23m.j.stokes@valis.nowhere> <5ga0vl$nbc@psdcomms.psd.com.au> <5gfpqm$gpd@clarion.carno.net.au> <5ggmfr$nr9$1@melbourne.DIALix.oz.au> <5gmc2s$koo$1@news1.inlink.com> <5gnda5$quk@clarion.carno.net.au> <endcy17f.fsf@reddwarf.aup.com.au> <3331F86C.3F9@bohm.anu.edu.au> <3335357D.13CE@deakin.edu.au> <5h8k75$f3k@clarion.carno.net.au> <5hb6be$ejh$1@goanna.cs.rmit.edu.au> <333957F4.3351110A@eris.dev.null> Newsgroups: aus.computers.linux