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Article #24Re: Boycott Stardock WAS:Re: Did you know Stardock PERIODICALLY snoopes disk, reports back to stardock via internet (was: Re: Wi...
From: mimbar98
Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 00:00
Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 00:00
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In article <37a44a20.0@pink.one.net.au>, pallis@[nospam]one.net.au wrote: > To All, > > I sent an email to Brad, stating what I think of this practice, in short > Stardock Systems has lost my business on this issue. What others do is > purely up to them, I'm letting my wallet do the talking. > They can call it what they want it won't be tolerated not by me any > way. Just as well he's in the US in Australia I would be contacting the > dept of Fair Trading and Consumer Affairs if Stardock was an Australian > Company. > > Buyer Beware. > Oh please. Do you play any video games on line? Do you have cookies on your machine? Do you even know what you're talking about? WindowBlinds is a Stardock Windows program that changes the GUI of Windows. It has an optional feature of letting people download the most popular 'skin' (GUI). It determines this by looking at what skin is being run. The feature is explicity explained in how it works on Stardock's website and is completely optional. It's not even on by default. Do you play Stardock's Entrepreneur or Stellar Frontier? They are games that have a central server for match making. Do you object to this? So you must boycott all games and most modern programs. Before posting a hysterical post like this you should at least try to find out what you're talking about. > Subject: > Did you know Stardock PERIODICALLY snoopes disk, reports > back to stardock > via internet (was: Re: WinBLIND TROJAN) > Date: > 31 Jul 1999 10:47:27 GMT > From: > uno@40th.com (uno@40th.com) > Reply-To: > reply@only.n.news.40th.com > Organization: > Yanaguana > Newsgroups: > comp.os.os2.apps, comp.os.os2.misc, comp.os.os2.advocacy > Followup-To: > comp.os.os2.advocacy > > Brad Wardell? (bwardell@stardock.com?) wrote (Fri, 23 Jul 1999 > 09:43:42): > >Specifically, WindowBlinds sends: > > > >The skin you are using - so that we can determine the most popular skin > >Your registration code - so monitor software piracy (it is OUR code > >remember) > >What OS you are running - websites take your OS info too > > > >I think that's about it. Nothing "secret". We primarily want to know what > >skin you are running. > > > >Eventually, our skins page will use this information to determine the 25 > >most popular skins based on the skins people are running. I think that > >blows away any sort of "rating" system since the ultimate recommendation a > >skin can get is by how many people are using it. > > > >Brad > > TomG wrote: > > > > It is 18:27 EST and I can't reach the Stardock site to verify - apparently their site > > is down (to update their disclaimers perhaps?). There has NOT been anything up > > front. I am too sensitive to this particular issue to simply have not noticed it. I > > attach to their servers several times each week to download updates and I am all over > > the WindowBlinds configuration control panel - no mention of snooping at all. Go to > > the "About" tab, page down between 40+ times through all the text and guess what - NO > > mention of this feature. > > > > Privacy statement at the web site? Well, I must apologize; I do not have it > > memorized but I will go back and analyze it. However, claiming that this practice is > > "No different from other products that send similar information back at the > > acquiecence of the user" is no defense. Moreover, I was not "asked" - before > > download, purchase, or at the point of installing the program or any update, whether > > or not I would like to turn this feature off. > > > > It just smells funny, even if this was not some *intentional* attempt at hiding the > > snoop feature. > > > > Kris Kwilas wrote: > > > > > In article <37A33ADB.40CB0EB2@erols.com>, TomG <nospam.pendrake@erols.com> wrote: > > > >seriously, no matter who is doing it or for what purpose. I was not made aware > > > >of the fact that Stardock was snooping and I DO NOT believe that it should be > > > >my responsibility to discover it - it should be out in the open and up-front from > > > >the vendor. > > > > > > WindowBlinds 0.97, the product in question (released yesterday I might add), > > > is quite up front about it. It includes the option to disable sending the > > > information right from the get go. No different from other products that send > > > similar information back at the acquiecence of the user. See the privacy > > > statement on www.windowblinds.net if you are interested in more details. > > > > > > No "snooping" is going on. > > > > > > Kris > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 10a752,f01d66e1bcfda79f X-Google-Attributes: gid10a752,public X-Google-Thread: 1125fa,f01d66e1bcfda79f X-Google-Attributes: gid1125fa,public X-Google-Thread: 102983,f01d66e1bcfda79f X-Google-Attributes: gid102983,public X-Google-Thread: fcfb9,f01d66e1bcfda79f X-Google-Attributes: gidfcfb9,public From: mimbar98@hotmail.com Subject: Re: Boycott Stardock WAS:Re: Did you know Stardock PERIODICALLY snoopes disk, reports back to stardock via internet (was: Re: WinBLIND TROJAN) Date: 1999/08/03 Message-ID: <7o6tkv$h7b$1@nnrp1.deja.com> X-Deja-AN: 508354810 References: <slrn7q5l1s.73.uno@sage.40th.com> <37A33ADB.40CB0EB2@erols.com> <POIo3.180$rj2.37267@typhoon1.rdc-detw.rr.com> <37A37C58.7C3F79B4@erols.com> <37a44a20.0@pink.one.net.au> X-Http-Proxy: 1.1 x31.deja.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 209.69.142.81 Organization: Deja.com - Share what you know. Learn what you don't. X-Article-Creation-Date: Tue Aug 03 14:17:14 1999 GMT X-MyDeja-Info: XMYDJUIDmimbar Newsgroups: aus.computers.os2,comp.os.linux.advocacy,aus.computers.linux,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Windows NT; DigExt)