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Re: Now I am REALLY pissed off!

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From: David Derbes
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 1994 04:01
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In article <3a6l59$ltg@aggedor.rmit.EDU.AU> s9312643@.xx.rmit.EDU.AU (George Vlahoulis) writes:
>Here is Australia I rung IBM and asked about the price of the cd version of
>warp. She asked me which version, the blue or the red. So I told her,
>unsure which is which, the one with out windows. she told me AUS$179. BUT
>she told me that you MUST have windows to install it. ??????? 
>
>Well I said how about the blue version then I said and see said its coming
>out NEXT YEAR, because of problems with Microsoft.
>

> s9312643@arcadia.cs.rmit.edu.au 
> s9312643@minyos.xx.rmit.edu.au
> George Vlahoulis 	Royal Melbourne Institute Of Technology, 
>			Melbourne Victoria Australia.
>


Many correspondants have indicated that Windows need not be present to 
install the current version of Warp. So the IBM rep was clearly wrong on
that score.

On the other hand, on the strength of *no* evidence, I believe that 
Microsoft's lawyers are the only reason why you cannot buy today a version 
of Warp which would cannibalize the Windows code from your full version
of OS/2 2.1. I believe that the requisite cutting and splicing routines
have been written and debugged, and that all that remains is for some 
sort of settlement to be made, or a judgment rendered, which would allow
IBM to treat the Win code on your machines *as if they owned it*. 

Unfortunately, neither IBM nor we the users own the code; we own only a
license to *use* the code, and then only in accordance with a license
that I haven't read. That license may well preclude "re-use", i.e. as
part of a new release of OS/2.

I am sorry that this may be the way things are; I'd like to think that
the license I bought indirectly through IBM allows me (with help from
IBM) to cut and splice Windows, but that is for the courts to decide,
sadly.

Time will tell, though. 

David Derbes [derbes@uhuru.uchicago.edu]
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