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I'll add lots of FYI details here...

In <36ED1F16.1296@pobox.com.au> Darren Reed <darrenr@pobox.com.au> writes:

>Jason Patterson wrote:
>> 
>> Darren Reed wrote:
>> > Worth, maybe, $800 ?
>> 
>> Most of the offers have been in the $1500 area.
>> 
>> > Friend of mine picked up a headless 20/612 for $800 last week
>> > (albiet it was headless).
>> 
>> Headless is a BIG factor here. I've had one offer of almost $1000
>> for just the SX graphics VSIMM and the 128 MB of RAM.

Headless can mean different things with a Sparc 20, since it can have a
VSIMM to use the onboard SX, or a Sbus framebuffer, or both. Both of those
items have to be missing to make the system headless.

VSIMM's are *very* pricey, but since they are 95 percent of the SX
framebuffer hardware, you'd be getting a 24-bit framebuffer very cheaply.
8-)

>>   SS20 base unit    $470 US      (www.memoryx.com)
>>   2 x SM50 CPU's    $250 US      (www.sunvalleytech.com)
>[...]
>> I'm not trying to rip anyone off here, just trying to sell some
>> systems that have been replaced during our recent round of upgrades.

>And you're agreeing their prices are "reasonable" ?  Personally,
>I'd beg to disagree.  Dual Pentium-II boards with SCSI (some dual
>channel) can be had for the same price as the above, running at
>100MHz (Front side bus) with a 33/66 MHZ PCI BUS rather than the
>25MHz SBus.  I'd be waging that they're reselling systems they've
>bought, so subtract some margin from the above (as much as 100%
>for used SPARC systems, in my experience) to get a "true" value.

>More the fool they are for paying so much.

For everyone's info:

I obtained a Sparc 20 base for US$450 recently. I also obtained an 8 meg
VSIMM for the on-board SX framebuffer for US$380 (and that, I might add, is
a *cheap* price for the 8 meg VSIMM), and a pair of SM-71 CPU modules for
US$475 each.

These were (a few months ago) all a bit below the current accepted average
market value for the individual items.

There is no way a Sparc 20 base with 128 meg of RAM, a VSIMM (even the 4 meg
one, which isn't much cheaper than the 8 meg one), and a pair of SM-51's,
could be imported for much less than A$2000, and that's not taking into
account customs, etc. or kludges on import documents to reduce the declared
value of shipments.

PC prices and Sun hardware prices can't be compared because the two are
completely different classes of hardware...

All FYI...

Regards,

Craig.
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