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Article #288Re: NBN Lesson for today
From: Barry
Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2010 07:37
Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2010 07:37
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On Tue, 02 Nov 2010 11:30:51 +1100, David Clayton <dcstar@NOSPAM.myrealbox.com> wrote: >On Tue, 02 Nov 2010 11:05:37 +1100, Real Clear wrote: > ......... >> Once upon a time, when the world was simple and Telstra was a telephone >> company, the telephone system was entirely analog, and the whole system >> ran over copper. >> >Actually, when "Telstra" came into being a hell of a lot of their >infrastructure was already digital. > >> Then optical fibre was used to link exchanges, and this left Telstra >> with large bundles of redundant inter-exchange copper wire. >> >Yep, a lot of digital inter-exchange trunks over copper were replaced with >digital trunks over fibre. Long before that time the individual analogue >circuits between exchanges were replaced with digital links multiplexing >many voice channels over a single copper pair, so there were already lots >of "redundant inter-exchange copper wire" which came in quite handy for >the various early data networks. I did a two day course on such PCM systems. They ran at 2 Mbs and had 30 channels. Before that the open wire systems used FDM at around 100 Khz. >> Over the years, mainly through bad record-keeping, Telstra lost trace of >> how much it had in the ground, and in a 1997 memo, Frank Blount >> chastised his staff claiming that up to half of Telstra's $3 billion in >> copper assets were unrecorded and effectively 'lost' to the system. >> Through "concentrated efforts", he said, the company had been >> rediscovering this cable at a rate of about $200 million in value a >> year. >......... >Guess what, the "value" quoted for those assets was in the revenue that >they generate for Telstra in the services they carry, not the "value" in >the cost of the copper. > >Anyone who tries to like the "value" Telstra quote in relation to the >value of the recovered scrap is just demonstrating ignorance - just like >the ridiculous claim about some sort of conspiracy in putting in the NBN >to somehow cash in on the copper currently in the ground. > >As far as conduits go, the NBN needs access to put their (tiny) fibre >cables through, as it is currently done only when the conduit has >insufficient space for new cabling is the old stuff removed - because it >is far more cost-effective to just leave it there. > >-- >Regards, David.
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