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Re: New climate community

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From: troppo
Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2010 04:56
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"JB" <spam@spam.com> wrote in
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> Please feel free to contribute to the new online community: 
> Climate-Debate.com.
> 
> Read this interesting thread about UHI (Urban Heat Island) with both
> sides in the scientific climate debate represented: 
> http://www.climate-debate.com/forum/uah-reveals-urban-heat-d6-e10.php.

Bit over my head, but certainly seems to confirm my own observations, that 
UHI is seriously underestimated. AFAIK for surface temperature records, 
data from locations where there are more than 16,000 people are usually 
excluded, but I know from my own work that UHI effects are significant at 
population levels of a tenth this size.

Also, other articles seem a bit easy-going in attributing cause and effect. 
Related, yes. Causally related? Very difficult. Coefficient of 
Determination can, and has been, 98.5, and there it turns out that there is 
no causal relationship. The old problem of 'ice cream causes drowning'.

Cheers

troppo

http://people.aapt.net.au/jclark19/
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