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Article #18Re: Blowing out the Canberra fires, and possibly others as well...
From: David Bromage
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 01:56
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 01:56
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In aus.aviation ahennell <andrew@hennell.com.au.com> wrote: > Marco Desloovere wrote: >> I was wondering whether it would be possible to blow out the Canberra >> fires using helicopters? Just like one would blow out the flame of a >> candle... > - Energy required to "blow" out a fire would be phenominal. For a bushfire it would be impossible, notwithstanding other problems mentioned here. But the Russians have used jet engines mounted on trucks to "blow" out oil well fires. > - Formation flying that close to eachother, and that close the ground is > never a good idea at the best of times (SAS & Blackhawk?) Close to the ground right above a fire is also not a good idea. Expecially noting that there were flames up to 300ft above the trees on Saturday. > - You'd end up, if anything, spreading fire more than putting it out This is the biggest problem. Another problem is that the helos were grounded for some of Saturday because the wind was too strong. The wind was uprooting trees and throwing them onto houses in Chapman and Duffy. Any helo pilots here willing to fly in winds like that? Cheers David
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From: David Bromage <dbromage@mule.omni.com.au>
Subject: Re: Blowing out the Canberra fires, and possibly others as well...
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