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Article #233Re: What's wrong with geothermal?
From: Addinall
Date: Mon, 01 Jan 2007 05:55
Date: Mon, 01 Jan 2007 05:55
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Trevor Wilson wrote: > "netvegetable" <dontemailme@all.com> wrote in message > news:en9564$pdb$1@news-02.connect.com.au... > > On Sun, 31 Dec 2006 11:41:07 +0000, Jo Schaper wrote: > > > >> netvegetable wrote: > >>> While the PM is trying to debate whether or not we should start to go > >>> nuclear in 10-15 years, various private firms are steaming ahead in > >>> their > >>> research and development of geothermal energy via "hot dry rocks" ...... > >>> > >> > >>> So tell me what's wrong with this form of energy as an alternative to > >>> coal? > >> > >> Do you have a large nearby source of water? Water or some other medium > >> still has to be used to transfer the energy. Even most wet geothermal > >> recirculates the water by re-injection, and there is always loss. > > > > Finally some food for thought. > > > > I wonder how much loss there would be. > > **There need only be as much loss as any thermal power plant (coal, nuclear, > et al). Crap. ------------- http://www.ees11.lanl.gov/EES11/Programs/HDR/documents/NRELConfPaper96.pdf GEOTHERMAL ENERGY FROM HOT DRY ROCK: A RENEWABLE ENERGY TECHNOLOGY MOVING TOWARDS PRACTICAL IMPLEMENTATION D. V. DUCHANE Earth and Environmental Sciences Division, Los Alamos National Laboratory, P.O. Box 1663, MS-D443, Los Alamos, NM 87545. USA Water Loss Data Loss as % of Injected Volume 12 7 14 ---------------- Between 7% and 14% water loss. Unless you can find some hot dry rocks near the sea-side, your chucking water away. > The main working fluid need not be water. Oh bullshit! What else are you going to pump down a 3-4 km deep hole, across and through a 500m X 500m X 200m slab of hot rock and back up a 3-4 km hole in the ground? And accepting a loss of 7% - 14% into the environment? Paratherm perhaps? > Water, for the most part, > is just cheap and convenient. That's exactly the sort of lunacy we have come to expect from Watermelon Greens in this country. You're delusional sonny. In Australia, water is not "convenient" and nor should it be cheap. Mark Addinall. > > > -- > Trevor Wilson > www.rageaudio.com.au > > > > -- > Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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