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Article #254Re: Water shortage worsens: Sydney steals Wollongong's riivers.
From: Sylvia Else
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 04:00
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 04:00
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Eunometic wrote: > hubbca2003@yahoo.com.au (Carole) wrote in message news:<77ed1283.0410200711.bd4e58b@posting.google.com>... > >>bernxard@yahoo.com.au (The Enlightenment) wrote in message news:<39556695.0410190559.643eb88f@posting.google.com>... >> >>>Australia has always been a country sparse in water resources. We've >>>all known this since childhood and have always known that we need to >>>manage the resource wisely. Why then have the Laboral elites been >>>increasing Our population through immigraion at a rate of 130,000 per >>>year? >> >>There was a 4Corners show on Monday. Ticki Fullerton interviewed Bob >>Carr and others and the show discussed feasibility of different >>options from turning sea water into fresh water and recycling grey >>water for human consumption which is being done successfully in some >>countries. >>http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/content/2004/s1220624.htm >> >> >>>The latest scheme is to divert millions of mega-litres of water from >>>the shoalhaven river to Sydney (where 60% of migrants settle). This >>>is ofcourse not really Sydneys water but should belong to the region. >>> >>>We will go through a phase of diverting a few minor rivers (at great >>>expense for little gain) the effect of which will be to further >>>worseneing environmental flows and changing the ecology of these >>>rivers, we are begining some farcical water conservation measures >>>which will in general add progressively higher expenses for diminising >>>returns. All of these measures will only stave of for a short time >>>the increaes in annual water bills of possibly a thousand dollars per >>>household that will be needed to support coal powered desalination. >>> >>>Immigraion has of course become a sacred cow: driven by ethnic special >>>interest groups and pandering politicians, driven by businesses who >>>desire market growth and cheaper labour for their lacklustre >>>management and owners. Driven by wealthy pro-immigration post war >>>Jewish immigrants such as Frank Lowey, Richard Pratt and Lou Solomon, >>>driven by brain dead lunar leftists. >> >>Carole >>http://www.austarmetro.com.au/~hubbca/water_agenda.htm > > > I had a look at hoth links that you provided. > > The first link, to the 4 corners site, starts of "once we had water to > waste". This is rubbish. Australians DON'T waste water or use > unreasonable quantities though there is room for improvement in > substance there is not too much to be done. > > They are trying to put a guilt trip on Australians to distract from > their own neglect and mismanagement of water resources and yes of the > population they have irresponsbly doubled in Sydney over the last 25 > years and continue to do so. > > We are all going to pay and the quality of our lives will lower. > > Desalination is possible but at a great cost. The price is 4-5 times > that of rainwater collected in Dams and inevitably it requires energy > that will only add to Greenhouse effects and our energy dependancy. > The energy requirements are around 10kw.hr/kLitre for reverse osmosis > and 4 kw.hr/kLitre for multistage flash distillation a process which > while efficient requires expesnive decalcination. Anyone calculated the minimum theoretical power requirement? I'm rather surprised that reverse osmosis is that inefficient. Sylvia.
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