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Re: Water shortage worsens: Sydney steals Wollongong's riivers.

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From: Sylvia Else
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 04:00
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Eunometic wrote:

> hubbca2003@yahoo.com.au (Carole) wrote in message news:<77ed1283.0410200711.bd4e58b@posting.google.com>...
> 
>>bernxard@yahoo.com.au (The Enlightenment) wrote in message news:<39556695.0410190559.643eb88f@posting.google.com>...
>>
>>>Australia has always been a country sparse in water resources.  We've
>>>all known this since childhood and have always known that we need to
>>>manage the resource wisely. Why then have the Laboral elites been
>>>increasing Our population through immigraion at a rate of 130,000 per
>>>year?
>>
>>There was a 4Corners show on Monday. Ticki Fullerton interviewed Bob
>>Carr and others and the show discussed feasibility of different
>>options from turning sea water into fresh water and recycling grey
>>water for human consumption which is being done successfully in some
>>countries.
>>http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/content/2004/s1220624.htm
>>
>>
>>>The latest scheme is to divert millions of mega-litres of water from
>>>the shoalhaven river to Sydney (where 60% of migrants settle).  This
>>>is ofcourse not really Sydneys water but should belong to the region.
>>>
>>>We will go through a phase of diverting a few minor rivers (at great
>>>expense for little gain) the effect of which will be to further
>>>worseneing environmental flows and changing the ecology of these
>>>rivers, we are begining some farcical water conservation measures
>>>which will in general add progressively higher expenses for diminising
>>>returns.  All of these measures will only stave of for a short time
>>>the increaes in annual water bills of possibly a thousand dollars per
>>>household that will be needed to support coal powered desalination.
>>>
>>>Immigraion has of course become a sacred cow: driven by ethnic special
>>>interest groups and pandering politicians, driven by businesses who
>>>desire market growth and cheaper labour for their lacklustre
>>>management and owners.  Driven by wealthy pro-immigration post war
>>>Jewish immigrants such as Frank Lowey, Richard Pratt and Lou Solomon,
>>>driven by brain dead lunar leftists.
>>
>>Carole
>>http://www.austarmetro.com.au/~hubbca/water_agenda.htm
> 
> 
> I had a look at hoth links that you provided.
> 
> The first link, to the 4 corners site, starts of "once we had water to
> waste".  This is rubbish.  Australians DON'T waste water or use
> unreasonable quantities though there is room for improvement in
> substance there is not too much to be done.
> 
> They are trying to put a guilt trip on Australians to distract from
> their own neglect and mismanagement of water resources and yes of the
> population they have irresponsbly doubled in Sydney over the last 25
> years and continue to do so.
> 
> We are all going to pay and the quality of our lives will lower.
> 
> Desalination is possible but at a great cost.  The price is 4-5 times
> that of rainwater collected in Dams and inevitably it requires energy 
> that will only add to Greenhouse effects and our energy dependancy. 
> The energy requirements are around 10kw.hr/kLitre for reverse osmosis
> and 4 kw.hr/kLitre for multistage flash distillation a process which
> while efficient requires expesnive decalcination.

Anyone calculated the minimum theoretical power requirement? I'm rather 
surprised that reverse osmosis is that inefficient.

Sylvia.
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