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Re: Water shortage worsens: Sydney steals Wollongong's riivers.

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From: Scott Gilbert
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 09:33
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"Diabolik" <Diabolik@nomail.com> wrote in message news:<TZYdd.34665$5O5.5251@news-server.bigpond.net.au>...
> "The Enlightenment" <bernxard@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
> news:OHzdd.33683$5O5.5363@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> >
> > "cc" <ccang@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message
> > news:41766ba3_1@news.iprimus.com.au...
> > > The Enlightenment wrote:
> > > > Logic is weak link for lunar leftist losers like you so I'll spell it
>  out
> > > > simply for you.
> > > >
> > >
> > > U dont understand.
> > > Modern capitalist society is based on a pyramid system
> > > (with the elderly on top and the young at the bottom),
> > > and most of us know that system doesnt work well for long.
> > > Which is probably why it is illegal in business.
> > >
> > > That is also why there is so much concern with the ageing population
> > > ie. the shape is no longer a pyramid.
> > >
> > > As the population is shrinking, the pollies are reacting with
> > > increasing immigration to maintain this shape.
> > > U will notice the new immigrants are mostly youngish and/or rich.
> >
> > However immigration has done little demographically to reduce the age of
>  the
> > population.   The demographer Peter MacDonald  (Monash I think) mentions
> > that this would need to be around several hundered thousand MORE to have
>  any
> > substantial effect and he says it may actualy make things worse.
> >
> > Immigration is part of the problem, it has the effect of increasing
> > competition for resources and limiting the number of children people can
> > afford to have.
> >
> > And if you go to Sydney's ethnic suburbs you will find them full of
>  retired
> > migrants.   Family reunion considerably ages the population.
> >
> > >
> > > Now, if the system was structured so that there wont be such a
> > > great reliance of the younger generation supporting the older,
> > > there wont be this great need for immigration
> >
> > You can't get away from the support ratio.  Money won't do it.   You need
> > peope to do that work.  Even if everyone had extensive superannuation it
> > would simply reduce to lots of money chasing a few workers.   The answer
> > than is labour saving technology this combined with a natural  demogeahic
> > balance in which Australians are reproducing at a balanced rate instead of
> > distorting itself with over immigration.
> >
> >
> > > and your (xenophobic?) fears will be eased somewhat.
> >
> > Labels don't improve the debate but restrict it.
> 
> I you want to increase the population age, have kids, don't blame
> immigration.

If you want to argue like a new age politically correct wanker, don't
listen to what is being said, that leads to not looking like a fool.

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Subject: Re: Water shortage worsens:  Sydney steals Wollongong's riivers.
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