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Re: i wrote... NOW X-POSTED

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From: 0tterbot
Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2007 10:58
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"Chookie" <ehrebeniuk@fowlspambegone.com.au> wrote in message 
news:ehrebeniuk-C2EE1D.22552706012007@news-vip.optusnet.com.au...
> In article <mSKnh.2414$A8.2035@news-server.bigpond.net.au>,
> "0tterbot" <spl@t.com> wrote:
>
>> it's an interesting theory - the only problem i can find with it is that 
>> i
>> think it doesn't pan out in reality :-) i'd have to think about that more 
>> to
>> be sure where i stand on it, but as a 36y.o. child of baby boomers (dh is 
>> 38
>> & also the child of boomers), it certainly doesn't work in our house, &
>> thinking of people i know, it doesn't seem to work there either.
> <snip>
>> my parents were always broke when we were growing up - do you think that
>> might be the real key? privilege vs lack thereof?
>
> Yes -- I was going to list the exceptions but didn't bother.

hm. tbh, i'm with jen on this - i think you're just being too general :-) it 
would be fair to say that people who've known nothing but privilege tend 
(perhaps) to parent a little differently, but to paint entire generations 
with a broad brush is something that pretty much gets my goat. individuals 
within an entire generation are simply far too different both in personality 
and experience for that to work well.

 For example,
> Boomer-age migrants generally don't have the Boomer mindset

i really don't think there's one "boomer mindset" though. the boomers have 
age-related similarities in many ways (just as every generation does) but i 
can't handle the idea of a boomer mindset. they were the most privileged 
generation australia has ever had (i don't think subsequent generations are 
nearly so privileged - and by that i'm clearly not only talking about money, 
but general advantage, access, and power) and that may make some difference 
between them & the rest of us, but in the main i feel parenting style comes 
down to so many factors that one's generation is quite possibly the least of 
it.

> So yes, if your Boomer parents were very poor, that's probably why you 
> don't > think like that.  They had better things to do than consider their 
> own
> self-actualisation, or do I mean self-aggrandisement.

well, not really :-) my dad was pretty much into self-actualisation, and 
that's how i became a child of divorce <g>. but seriously, these are two 
people (my parents) with so little in common in every imaginable way that i 
find it difficult to believe they were ever married (even though i was 
there). yet, their upbringings were extremely similar (and similarly 
modest), they're almost the same age, were born & raised only 30km apart, 
etc etc etc. they're just totally different people who, then and now, behave 
extraordinarily differently in every way including their parenting styles 
(then and now) and, well, everything. my example of two doesn't negate your 
point, but since we're talking about the children of boomers, it's not a bad 
place to start. my dad is totally overindulgent to himself & others - so 
when we were broke, we were the ones taking stuff back from the supermarket 
checkout because he didn't have enough money to actually get everything we'd 
asked for. if we'd been wealthy, i wonder what sort of angry, self-entitled 
wanker i'd be, according to your theory? <g>
kylie 
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