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On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 17:47:20 +1100, Richard Sherratt
<richard.sherratt@NOTHINGHEREbrunsley.com.au> wrote:

>We planted a dwarf lemon about three years ago. It flowers, but not
>abundently and seems to produce a few little starter fruits about 2 to
>3mm in diameter, but they all drop off after a few days. If you touch
>one that's sstill attached, it dropos off immediately.  It's a "Lots
>A' Lemons".
>
>It's in in a terracotta pot with internal measurements 520mm dia by
>510mm deep. The pot previously had a cumquat bush that thrived
>(cumquat marmalade in big batches - yum), but I totally replaced the
>old dirt with terracotta potting mix. 
>
>The  pot's sitting on a paved surface and might not drain particularly
>well.
>
>It's been fed and watered according to the instructions on the tag
>that came with it. It might have been over-watered for the first year
>before I bought a soil moisture meter. It's had leaf miner attacks
>which we handled by spraying and removing affected leaves. Some of the
>leaves turn yellow.
>
>Any thoughts?

Could be overwatering or deficient in nitrogen (lemons are heavy
nitrogen feeders)? That potting mix may well be clapped out by now, or
possibly wasnt that high in nutrients to begin with.

You're in Melbourne, but I'm guessing the weather is fairly warm and
the tree hasnt been exposed to frost?

I'm leaning towards lack of nitrogen...

On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 17:47:20 +1100,  Richard Sherratt
<richard.sherratt@NOTHINGHEREbrunsley.com.au> wrote:
 
> We planted a dwarf lemon about three years ago. It flowers, but not
> abundently and seems to produce a few little starter fruits about 2 to
> 3mm in diameter, but they all drop off after a few days. If you touch
> one that's sstill attached, it dropos off immediately.  It's a "Lots
> A' Lemons".

I have seen examples of this plant in 250mm pots with in excess of a dozen mature fruit on
each plant.  So they do fruit well at a young age.
 
> It's in in a terracotta pot with internal measurements 520mm dia by
> 510mm deep. The pot previously had a cumquat bush that thrived
> (cumquat marmalade in big batches - yum), but I totally replaced the
> old dirt with terracotta potting mix. 

Was the original plant in a 200mm pot?  If so, 520mm diameter is too big.  I would have
put it in a 300mm pot to start.

> The  pot's sitting on a paved surface and might not drain particularly
> well.

That is a huge problem and will lead to collar rot and the plant's demise.

Always sit pots on feet or half pavers or something.  Oh, and if there aren't enough
holes, drill some more using a masonry drill bit.  Don't use the hammer drill setting on
the drill itself.

> It's been fed and watered according to the instructions on the tag
> that came with it. It might have been over-watered for the first year
> before I bought a soil moisture meter. It's had leaf miner attacks
> which we handled by spraying and removing affected leaves. Some of the
> leaves turn yellow.
> 
> Any thoughts?

Old leaves turn yellow and drop off.  Give it some dynamic lifter.

rainman@mailinator.com wrote:
> On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 17:47:20 +1100,  Richard Sherratt
> <richard.sherratt@NOTHINGHEREbrunsley.com.au> wrote:
> 
>> We planted a dwarf lemon about three years ago. It flowers, but not
>> abundently and seems to produce a few little starter fruits about 2
>> to 3mm in diameter, but they all drop off after a few days. If you
>> touch one that's sstill attached, it dropos off immediately.  It's a
>> "Lots A' Lemons".
> 
> I have seen examples of this plant in 250mm pots with in excess of a
> dozen mature fruit on each plant.  So they do fruit well at a young
> age. 
> 
>> It's in in a terracotta pot with internal measurements 520mm dia by
>> 510mm deep. The pot previously had a cumquat bush that thrived
>> (cumquat marmalade in big batches - yum), but I totally replaced the
>> old dirt with terracotta potting mix.
> 
> Was the original plant in a 200mm pot?  If so, 520mm diameter is too
> big.  I would have put it in a 300mm pot to start.
> 

Why?

David

On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 08:48:57 +1100,  "David Hare-Scott" <secret@nospam.com> wrote:
  
> >> We planted a dwarf lemon about three years ago. It flowers, but not
> >> abundently and seems to produce a few little starter fruits about 2
> >> to 3mm in diameter, but they all drop off after a few days. If you
> >> touch one that's sstill attached, it dropos off immediately.  It's a
> >> "Lots A' Lemons".
> > 
> > I have seen examples of this plant in 250mm pots with in excess of a
> > dozen mature fruit on each plant.  So they do fruit well at a young
> > age. 
> > 
> >> It's in in a terracotta pot with internal measurements 520mm dia by
> >> 510mm deep. The pot previously had a cumquat bush that thrived
> >> (cumquat marmalade in big batches - yum), but I totally replaced the
> >> old dirt with terracotta potting mix.
> > 
> > Was the original plant in a 200mm pot?  If so, 520mm diameter is too
> > big.  I would have put it in a 300mm pot to start.
> > 
> 
> Why?
 
They retain too much moisture if put in too big a pot, this leads to root and/or collar
rot.

On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 19:43:16 +1100, Je�us <none@all.invalid> wrote:

>On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 17:47:20 +1100, Richard Sherratt
><richard.sherratt@NOTHINGHEREbrunsley.com.au> wrote:
>
>>We planted a dwarf lemon about three years ago. It flowers, but not
>>abundently and seems to produce a few little starter fruits about 2 to
>>3mm in diameter, but they all drop off after a few days. If you touch
>>one that's sstill attached, it dropos off immediately.  It's a "Lots
>>A' Lemons".
>>
>>It's in in a terracotta pot with internal measurements 520mm dia by
>>510mm deep. The pot previously had a cumquat bush that thrived
>>(cumquat marmalade in big batches - yum), but I totally replaced the
>>old dirt with terracotta potting mix. 
>>
>>The  pot's sitting on a paved surface and might not drain particularly
>>well.
>>
>>It's been fed and watered according to the instructions on the tag
>>that came with it. It might have been over-watered for the first year
>>before I bought a soil moisture meter. It's had leaf miner attacks
>>which we handled by spraying and removing affected leaves. Some of the
>>leaves turn yellow.
>>
>>Any thoughts?
>
>Could be overwatering or deficient in nitrogen (lemons are heavy
>nitrogen feeders)? That potting mix may well be clapped out by now, or
>possibly wasnt that high in nutrients to begin with.
>
>You're in Melbourne, but I'm guessing the weather is fairly warm and
>the tree hasnt been exposed to frost?
>
>I'm leaning towards lack of nitrogen...

Thanks. No frost, but it gets down to around 5 to 7C at night in
winter.
-- 
Regards.
Richard.

On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 07:33:47 +1100, rainman@mailinator.com wrote:

>On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 17:47:20 +1100,  Richard Sherratt
><richard.sherratt@NOTHINGHEREbrunsley.com.au> wrote:
> 
>> We planted a dwarf lemon about three years ago. It flowers, but not
>> abundently and seems to produce a few little starter fruits about 2 to
>> 3mm in diameter, but they all drop off after a few days. If you touch
>> one that's sstill attached, it dropos off immediately.  It's a "Lots
>> A' Lemons".
>
>I have seen examples of this plant in 250mm pots with in excess of a dozen mature fruit on
>each plant.  So they do fruit well at a young age.
> 
>> It's in in a terracotta pot with internal measurements 520mm dia by
>> 510mm deep. The pot previously had a cumquat bush that thrived
>> (cumquat marmalade in big batches - yum), but I totally replaced the
>> old dirt with terracotta potting mix. 
>
>Was the original plant in a 200mm pot?  If so, 520mm diameter is too big.  I would have
>put it in a 300mm pot to start.
>
>> The  pot's sitting on a paved surface and might not drain particularly
>> well.
>
>That is a huge problem and will lead to collar rot and the plant's demise.
>
>Always sit pots on feet or half pavers or something.  Oh, and if there aren't enough
>holes, drill some more using a masonry drill bit.  Don't use the hammer drill setting on
>the drill itself.
>
>> It's been fed and watered according to the instructions on the tag
>> that came with it. It might have been over-watered for the first year
>> before I bought a soil moisture meter. It's had leaf miner attacks
>> which we handled by spraying and removing affected leaves. Some of the
>> leaves turn yellow.
>> 
>> Any thoughts?
>
>Old leaves turn yellow and drop off.  Give it some dynamic lifter.


Thanks. All suggestions noted. The pot's been put up on feet and it
seems to be looking healthier. I'm sure that's wishful thinking. It's
too soon.
-- 
Regards.
Richard.