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Article #96Re: Thankyou AARNet..
From: Michael Malone
Date: Thu, 24 Nov 1994 00:30
Date: Thu, 24 Nov 1994 00:30
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Andrew Pam (avatar@jolt.mpx.com.au) wrote: : Also, where do you draw the lines? We are a mixture of non-profit : (www.efa.org.au), fundamental research (Xanadu) and commercial (Glass Wings, : which is still in the start-up stages and not yet turning a profit). : Should we be buying three Internet links, or just paying different rates : on the one link depending on the domain name of origin? No. You just make sure that you charge sufficient prices to cover your costs. Carry non-profit services is not just an altruistic gesture. It also attracts people to your web site so that they can see what services you do have to offer. This is the whole nature of advertising on the web. People will rarely come there to see straight advertising, but if you make other services available, such as non-profit pages and changing information, then potential customers will return to those pages and the advertising will have its designated psychological impact. So your task is to arrange your charging in an appropriate manner to meet the costs involved. If this does involve moving the service overseas, well that doesn't stop it from being an Australian venture. As you say later, distance is relative on the net. If you established the site in the US, it would not change how the site was perceived by customers, nor the actual service offered. In fact you could even have the site retain an address in the .au domain if you perceive this as being economically important. : The Internet is predicated upon the assumptions that every place is equally : close (no marginal cost for distance), and that everyone is an equal member : of the net with something to contribute. I agree. But unfortunately this doesn't even come close to reflecting the economic realities of providing the service. The international link is orders more expensive than interstate links. : 2. I do not believe that traffic sent should be charged, as it becomes an : enormous disincentive to provide information services, something I would : think we are trying to encourage in this country. I note also that : although universities and the CSIRO are explicity excluded from this, : secondary schools have to pay commercial prices. I didn't think that this was the case. I believed that unis would not be charged for _any_ traffic within Australia, but would be charged a flat rate for all traffic, both sent and received, outside of the country. Mind you, I agree with the sentiment. From memory, the US->Aust duplex is pretty well saturated, but the Aust->US is pretty minimally used. (Someone with real stats here would be useful!) If send traffic (both domestic and international) was free, this would still encourage Aussie sites to provide services to the international community, without overly taxing the real resource bottlenecks. Regards Michael -- Michael Malone @ iiNet Technologies -*- Internet Service Providers pariah@iinet.com.au. Ph (09) 307 1183, Fax 307 8414. fido#3:632/552 Copyright asserted -*- redistribution with attribution encouraged!
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