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Re: Old class-B (/16) IP address block wanted

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From: The Raven
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 13:15
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"Kwyjibo." <sdrawkcabtlepsgod@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
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> "The Raven" <wsmc@flashmail.com> said
>
> > "Kwyjibo." <sdrawkcabtlepsgod@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
> > news:Xns939BB3FFD5B512468@130.133.1.4...
> >> mathewm <me@privacy.net> said
> >>
> >> > On 14 Jun 2003 17:56:07 +0800, Paul Day wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> In aus.net.access mathewm <me@privacy.net> probably wrote:
> >> >>> They couldn't, because you can't sell address blocks.
> >> >>
> >> >> It's been done in the past in .au by liquidators.
> >> >>
> >> >> PD
> >> >
> >> > They flogged something the company didn't own? They did well.
> >>
> >> I'm using Windows XP here. I don't own the software but only own a
> >> licence to use the software. I am able to sell that licence to a
> >> third party. Same thing.
> >
> > Nope, not the same thing at all.
> >
>
> Bullshit.

Read your MS license and then go visit apnic. Now show the similarity to
licenses/allocation of IPs ranges.

>
> > If the license is for an OEM XP you can't sell it unless you include
> > the the computer it was installed upon.
>
> Where did I say it was an OEM copy?

You didn't so I commented on both OEM and full licenses.

>
> > It's non-transferrable except
> > as a license on a specific piece of hardware.
> >
>
> So it's still transferable.

Only with the hardware. Where did you say with hardware? Now show the
similarity to IPs ranges.

> In other words you were spewing shit in a
> pathetic attempt to prove me wrong,

You claimed I was wrong about selling IP, despite the fact that others had
already confirmed my original answer. In addition, a quick look at apnic
would show you we were right.

You claimed that it's the same as selling XP. I pointed out the MS license
agreement has specific clauses about selling/transferring the license, which
you obviously haven't read, and that it had nothing in common with selling
IP ranges.

> when all you have managed to do is
> confirm what I said in the first place. You *can* sell the licence.

You can sell you XP under certain circumstances but you can't sell IPs.

http://www.apnic.net/info/faq/apnic_faq/obtaining.html#4

Can I buy IP addresses?
No. IP addresses are a shared public resource and are not for sale, as
effective management of this resource is vital to the ongoing health of the
Internet. However, if you obtain IP addresses from APNIC, you will have the
right to continue using those addresses provided that you use them in
accordance with APNIC allocation and assignment policies and provided that
your membership remains current (or, in the case of non-members, that you
continue to pay the required maintenance fees).

> > Only if it is a full retail pack can you sell it.  This license is
> > transferrable onto other equipment and/or sold to another party.
> >
> > It's all detailed in your license agreement.
> >
>
> No shit, Einstein.

Then feel free to point out the similarities between your XP license and
apnic's policies, which is what you claimed.

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