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Article #51Re: fingering e-mail addresses
From: Jacques Distler
Date: Sun, 05 Sep 1999 00:00
Date: Sun, 05 Sep 1999 00:00
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In article <37D21508.6828@cygnus.uwa.edu>, mixeman <lavida@cygnus.uwa.edu> wrote: >> As to the poster's original question, if the ISP has disabled fingerd, the >> only thing you can do to verify an email address is to telnet to port 25 >> on his machine and use >> VRFY joe@yourhost.net >> or >> EXPN joe@yourhost.net >> or go through the motions of sending a test message >> HELO myhost.net >> MAIL FROM: me@myhost.net >> RCPT TO: joe@yourhost.net >> QUIT >> >> I am sure the ISP did not *intend* for you to have to diddle with his SMTP >> daemon in order to verify an email address, but that is *exactly* what he >> achieved by disabling fingerd. >> >> Pity. >> > >I found another program that does SMTP verify. >However, almost every ISP that doesn't support finger has also disabled >the EXPN command in their mail server. Even if both EXPN and VRFY are disabled (I agree EXPN should be disabled; I don't think VRFY should be), you can always do the HELO-MAIL-RCPT-QUIT thing. This establishes that the user exists, but doesn't generate a mail message (since you never said DATA). There's no way to disable *that* without breaking SMTP (which is why only a bozo would disable VRFY). JD -- PGP public key: http://golem.ph.utexas.edu/~distler/distler.asc
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From: distler@golem.ph.utexas.edu (Jacques Distler)
Subject: Re: fingering e-mail addresses
Date: 1999/09/05
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