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3 total messages Started by chas Sun, 11 Jul 2004 23:53
Domain name usage
#119
Author: chas
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2004 23:53
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Hi all
Recently got a .com.au domain name that was available (obviously)
Have noticed that some people seem to still be using email addresses @my
domain
Have spoken to the previous owner of the domain and he has clearly not
contacted all his customers of the old domain to instruct them that they
will not receive any replies unless they change their email addres.
This leads to 4 questions

1) How can I find out how long the domain name was available untill I got
it.

2) Can a domain name be used after your registration has expired.

3) Is it legal for me, as domain admin to read mail intended for another
person.

4) what efforts should I go to to resolve this problem for the customers of
an ISP that I have no association with.

Thanks
Charles
Re: Domain name usage
#120
Author: Shaun Turner
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 09:50
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On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 23:53:49 GMT, "chas" <ngposter@caldera.com.au>
wrote:

>Hi all
>Recently got a .com.au domain name that was available (obviously)
>Have noticed that some people seem to still be using email addresses @my
>domain
>Have spoken to the previous owner of the domain and he has clearly not
>contacted all his customers of the old domain to instruct them that they
>will not receive any replies unless they change their email addres.
>This leads to 4 questions
>
>1) How can I find out how long the domain name was available untill I got
>it.

ask the previous owner, or search some of the expired domain lists.
i'm not sure if there's a .com.au one however


>
>2) Can a domain name be used after your registration has expired.

nothing stops people still using the domain in their email address
wether it's expired or not. i suspect however that after the various
cooling off periods that exist around the time domains expire have
elapsed the dns that hosted the domain up until its expiry would
automaticaly get rid of it.

>
>3) Is it legal for me, as domain admin to read mail intended for another
>person.

probably not, not sure how the privacy act covers this scenario.

>
>4) what efforts should I go to to resolve this problem for the customers of
>an ISP that I have no association with.

as much as you can be buggered with. Personaly i'd just start bouncing
messages. people will soon start asking the people they are trying to
email (somehow) whats going on. On the other hand could could create
some email acounts and start chaging these people for it.

>
>Thanks
>Charles
>
hope i could help

shaun
Re: Domain name usage
#121
Author: Fiona Fell : bluecrack multimedi...
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 23:38
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Chas,

I have had similar problems with other unauthorised persons using my
domain name, although mine is a .com only.

I am not receiving people's mail directed to a previous owner, I am
getting bounces from potential spammers' e-mail adventures.

I suggest looking within an expired domain directory to find out how
long the domain was available for. If it was a short period of perhaps
under a month, the previous owner may have not let anyone know of
the change.

A domain name can be utilised, in sending mail to, by any person
whether it is registered and in active use or not.

I am not 100% certain of the legal standing of reading others' e-mail,
but I am sure no one should complain, if you do so only to advise the
e-mailing party of the e-mail address that you used to contact the
previous domain name registrar.

I would respond to 'their' e-mail messages with a standard message
describing the situation, and the e-mail address that can be used to
contact the person/business they are looking for.

It is definitely a bit of effort on your part, but it creates good will
with people. And if you are using  a domain that another has used,
you may very well be offering similar products or services.
(Can't be sure unless I know your domain name).
Especially if the domain mentions your field of expertise or business
industry.

I hope this helps you out,
Fiona Fell
>> head creative geek
>> bluecrack multimedia

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