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Hi Rod,
 
 > >> The internet is not for children.
 > 
 > Fraid so. Just like say newspapers and TV are.

And thats my point in a nutshell.
They aren't saying that Playboy or other mags can't be sold because children
might see them so why do so on the Net?

TV has the warnings about sex, drug, and violence scenes in movies and leave
it up to the perent to say if their child can watch the show or not...
Why should it be any different for the Net?  And please don't come back with 
the fact a lot of the above is cut out before its screened on TV...
I don't think they should have to on 7, 9, or 10 when 2 and SBS don't
cut their shows...

 > JA> I agree partly with the above. It's the parent or in the
 > JA> case of school access to the Net, the teachers who are
 > JA> responsible for what children access on the Net. If parents
 > JA> can't be there to watch their children on the Net they should
 > JA> put the modem away so they can't use it unsupervised.
 > 
 > Pathetically naive, particularly with teenagers.

I'm thinking more about younger children...
No matter what the law says I think a _normal_ 13 year old should know
the difference between right and wrong...  It's only the younger children
who need to be protected from some of the areas on the Net...

 > JA> Teachers more so as they are paid to TEACH
 > JA> and Watch OVER students in school hours...
 > 
 > Ditto, its just not feasible.

I don't see any problems here?
Not in the state school system anyway...
I can't see the goverment giving the schools the money to have more than 
one or two computers a class in the next few years....

 > JA> Children can learn a lot from the InterNet, it's not just for
 > adults.
 > 
 > Yes. The original is completely silly.

Shock horror.  We agree on something...  ;-)

 > JA> If something can be misused a kid will find a way
 > JA> to do so. Wether its the InterNet or anything else...
 > 
 > They will indeed. And its utterly out of the question
 > to think its feasible to have adult supervision at all
 > times. You cant achieve anything remotely like that.

No you can't and if the perent can't do it why should they expect some one 
else to do it for their kid and god knows how many others at the same time?

 > DD> Ban the filth!
 > 
 > JA> Now as to this part. YOU NEED TO GET A LIFE!
 > 
 > Great line in rational argument.

I'm sorry but the above led me to believe this was anything but rational...

 > JA> If I want to look at pictures of naked people
 > JA> why shouldn't I be able if I want to on the net?
 > 
 > Why not indeed. Teenagers ditto. They will whatever you do anyway,
 > even if you manage to prevent them from using the net entirely.

The thing that I will never understand is that a lot of the BS on the
above come from religous people...  If we are made in God's image than
what is wrong with looking at pictures of the human body or any hetrosexaul act?
I can see where they are coming from with the homosexaul sex but thats another
story...

 > JA> I can buy magazines in nearly any newsagents and kids can
 > JA> see they are on the shelves...  The same with video shops...
 > 
 > Yes, although we do make it a bit harder for kids to get those,
 > and minimise the risk of Aunt Mabel carking it on the spot when
 > she sees a shot of say OJ porking Elle in Womans Day.

Now that might sell a few copies....  ;-)
Yes I agree with making it harder for kids to get into different areas on the
Net but not with people telling me what I can and can't read or look at on
the Net...

 > JA> Live and let live.
 > 
 > Great line in rational argument you have there John.

Well I thought it was a little better than the other one...

 > JA> You bring kids into the world then YOU are responsible for their
 > actions!
 > 
 > With the death penalty for your childs littering or graffiti
 > presumably.

No but if the perent had to pay for the removal of the graffiti I'm sure
the kids would stop doing it...  Or be more careful not to be caught...

BFN,
    John.


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