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In <9526223.10832@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> amorton@ee.mu.OZ.AU (Anthony Morton) writes:
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>A typical quote is the following:

>"There is no female who has worked on a networked system who has not been
>subjected to harassment, flaming, or other intimidatory tactics."

Let me name two who haven't: Fredrika Gers and Ina Hoenicke (oe is a 
transcription of the German o-Umlaut).

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>  Hence this posting; I'd like to hear the opinions (and even
>facts) of Usenet readers on the question of supposed male domination and
>harassment.  While there's been plenty of discussion of pornography and
>privacy issues here, there hasn't been much on the harassment issue. 

There has been a thread in the German language newsgroups de.soc.netzwesen
and de.org.ccc about that, which started with:
 Subject: Der Spiegel will sexuelle Belaestigung im Netz
 Date: Fri, 25 Aug 1995 12:51:02 GMT
 Message-ID: <41kguu$1vi@salyko.cube.net>

Frederika, the author of <41kguu$1vi@salyko.cube.net>, wrote that she 
had been approached by a Ina, a journalist who wanted to write an article
about sexual harassment in the Internet. She had answered that she never
had experienced any. Ina told her that was her experience, too - she had 
posted several articles under female names and never got harassed, quite 
the contrary. But the Spiegel did not want such a story.

Read the rest of the thread and related threads to see for yourself
what common journalism means. Maybe Internet/Usenet will be the
FALLEX62 of the Spiegel ;-)


As to the author of the book you mentioned, I guess she did the typical
wannabe-libber-shtick: On her first posting, she told the rest of the
world something like "From now on we're all going to use my newspeak".
People hate that and do lots of things to scare a clueless and loud newbie
of the net.


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_Excerpt_ from <41kguu$1vi@salyko.cube.net>:

>Gerade hatte ich einen Anruf von einer Journalistin. Sie schreibe an
>einem Artikel ueber "sexuelle Belaestigung im Internet". Ob ich denn
>auch schon nach ganz normalen Postings die Mailbox voller eindeutiger
>Angebote gehabt haette.
>Ich habe ihr natuerlich wahrheitsgemaess geantwortet, dass mir das
>noch nie passiert ist. Da meinte sie, ja, das haette sie eigentlich
>inzwischen auch schon rausgefunden. Sie haette mehrere Postings unter
>weiblichen Namen losgelassen und ganz ruehrende Reaktionen gekriegt,
>so dass ihr die ganze Sache schon richtig peinlich sei. Und sie wuerde
>jetzt auch schreiben, dass das alles eben nicht so sei.
-- 
Wolfgang Schelongowski     ws@xivic.ruhr.de

Ye have made of my Father's house a suite of offices.
  -- A god complains in: Tom Holt, Odds and Gods