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Re: and people wonder why im angry

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From: Telford Tendys
Date: Sun, 13 Nov 1994 22:36
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Engine writes:
> Rosie's personal opinion is feminine and I think she believes this
> makes a difference. Much of the time men assume that it does not.
> THis is structural phallocentricity because it is a blindness.
> Avoiding bigoted memes requires a recognition just beyond the 'person'al 
> which you have intimated, because in this case the 'person' is just a
> renamed 'Man'. This is how political correctness gets it's boringness.

And: 
> Who are you to tell someone who is trying to challenge structures which
> favour your patricarchal meme-set, your male-thinking agenda, the very
> foundations on which you judge the meaning and effect of 'some message'
> that they take it the 'wrong way'.

Perhaps an attempt to enumerate this ``meme-set'' would be a useful activity;
it may even put some substance behind the above arguement.

Which memes exactly is Engine refering to and how to they apply ?
What makes them favour one sex over another and why ?

John Gibbons (jgibbons@bvision.demon.co.uk) wrote:
> Does anybody think this woman isn't bananas?

I think I could make a rational case for spying a meme here...

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This has a special propagating effect too because as soon as
the insanity finger is pointed, anyone siding with the victim
does so at the risk that the finger will point at them too.
Thus, the statement tries to lever others into agreement.

Rosie's defence:
> Oh btw the "she's nuts" tag reminds me of someone..:)

Other comments about people that whine fall into a similar
category I suppose so they wouldn't vount as extra.

I think the meme that I have detailed is a non-sexist one
though - perhaps someone would continue the list by finding
some sexist memes that are closer to the heart of the problem...

	- Tel
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From: telford@threetek.dialix.oz.au (Telford Tendys)
Subject: Re: and people wonder why im angry
In-Reply-To: cjmount@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU's message of Sun, 30 Oct 1994 18:17:27 GMT
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